Ebola - slow to spread, hard to catch. So something like AIDS?

So who's dressing up as an ebola infectee for Halloween?

Color me surprised. Not.

Seems similar to the treatment Sihks got after 9/11.

Chris Christie would, but even after losing a bit of weight he can't quite fit in a tent.

That wouldn't be happening if the CDC would try to do Disease Control instead of spoon feeding the public mumbo jumbo racist multiculturalism. Ebola can't spread here because we're white and lily clean... Inflated self-esteem is piss pore protection against a filovirus, but that's what we're relying on.

There is a filovirus related to Ebola that's recently been found in bats in Spain and France, but fortunately that variant doesn't infect humans. If things go pear shaped here in North America, we could end up with indigenous bats that carry both rabies and Ebola, leaving the victims terrified of water even while they're shitting their guts out with diarrhea, and health care workers will make bets on whether Ebola will liquify their organs before rabies burns out their brain.

After the posrep you gave me, I should clarify that I don't agree with the shit that's being described in the article. A guy from Liberia that hasn't been there in the last six months is no more likely to be a carrier than you or I. Kids should not be getting pummeled in school because of adult ignorance (and it certainly *is* adults where kids get the idea of beating them up from).

If the kid is going to survive in New York he's got to learn to think on his feet.

"Yeah, I'm from Liberia and I gots the Ebola. Touch me and you'll shit yourself to death as ya bleedin' out through your eyeballs, bitches!"

Sure he would! Barnum and Bailey have surplus sales all the time.

Touche.

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Anna,

There is no such thing as early detection with Ebola. You don't know you have it until you get sick. Even then it might not show up in the tests until a few days after you're already sick.

The 21 day quarantine is the minimum amount of time that health organizations have determined is good enough to catch anyone who has Ebola. The World Health Organization says 42 days should be the quarantine time limit. If you don't have it after 42 days then obviously you don't have it.

Does this nurse have it? Don't know. But she is lying when she says she knows for a fact she doesn't have it. For her I believe the 21 day mark is November 10.

The doctor who came from Africa thought he didn't have it. He went all over New York City with it. Came down with it and lied about what he was doing in the city. Now his fiance and two of his friends are in mandatory quarantine. And notice you don't hear much about him in the news? He's in serious but stable condition. Serious? Doesn't sound good. Sounds like he's got it for sure.

States don't like voluntary quarantines because as we've seen a doctor who should know better and a nurse who also know better broke or want to break their own quarantines.

The military is establishing a 21 day quarantine for troops who serve in Africa. Australia has just banned flights from that part of the world. Various states are now instituting quarantines. These people aren't dummies. They are doing this for reasons of public safety.

Gul, Garamet, Liet, Dinner and the rest of the left on this board are just parrots who are spouting everything that the overly politically correct administration says.

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-ebola-questions-20141007-story.html#page=1

AP IMPACT: IF EBOLA BATTERS US, WE ARE NOT READY

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-29-12-25-52

The CDC quietly issued a new poster that says Ebola can be spread by droplets from a sneeze, saying the distance is up to three feet. Recent MIT research says droplets from sneezes travel up to 20 feet (and they urge a redesign of ventilation equipment). Of course the CDC has been saying this for some time, just downplaying it, noting that most Ebola victims aren't coughing. Well, Ebola might soon meet the US cold and flu season, where the average child gets 6-8 colds. One of the reasons for the season is that the colder temperatures allow influenza viruses to survive better in our airways, with animals being contagious for 2 extra days at 41F instead of 68F. Another factor is that the virus survives longer at colder temperatures (as does Ebola) and influenza can't be transmitted at all at temperatures above 86F. And finally there is humidity. Droplet borne flu travels much more readily at low humidity, and isn't even transmitted above 80 percent humidity.

In pigs, Ebola is transmitted directly through the air via droplets, and Ebola manifests prominently in the pigs' respiratory tract, whereas in rhesus monkeys it doesn't seem to concentrate there. The studies arguing against easy aerosol transmission are from rhesus monkeys, not humans, and were carried out in a comfortable rhesus monkey climate. At temperatures very different from sub-equatorial Africa, Ebola might have quite different transmission characteristics, as do other droplet borne viruses. What is barely transmissible there might be highly transmissible here during the winter. We haven't had any experience with Ebola in cold, dense cities, and scientists have done only very limited research on the virus because it's fairly new and very dangerous to humans.

Science isn't a body of knowledge, it's a way of acquiring and developing knowledge based on experience. Our experience with Ebola is rather limited, and although we can rule out a great many things, we can't rule out others until we do the experiments or gather the observations, and our observational gathering abilities are severely hampered at present by all the political talking points coming out of the Administration. We've already had other problems with political people trying to oversimplify something to turn it into a talking point, while all the experts supposedly behind the talking point mumble "Well, that's not quite exactly correct." But by the time they get heard the talking point has become a mantra that's very difficult to walk back, and the Administration takes six months or a year to frame a new narrative. A disease like Ebola doesn't give you a year to get things right.

Thus, various state centers for disease control have stepped in, using their very powerful state-level authority to try and protect their own citizens, having realized that nobody else is going to protect them. They can't wait for guidance from the Ebola czar because the Ebola czar hasn't been seen or heard from, and in any event he doesn't know anything more about Ebola than Jerry Seinfeld, who would at least make a point of saying something about Ebola.

oh, okay..

Yeah, that's way too much fucking time to be cruising about like that. She should've gotten groceries for three weeks and hunker down.

I just don't get people sometimes.

We'll bring her groceries. We'll even leave her fresh pizza at her door. We'll even pay her to lay on the couch playing xBox. She works for CDC media relations, and yet she hasn't uttered a peep about that role. If she's convinced she can't have Ebola it's probably because her stay in Africa didn't put her within a mile of anyone who might have had Ebola, perhaps putting together informational materials and working on media campaigns about what they should do to change their behavior so they don't put themselves at greater risk of contracting it. She's probably just a stalking horse for Tom Friedan, the CDC director, who doesn't like to be questioned or second-guessed by Congress or the states, all of whom are trying to find sense in anything he says.

I'm guessing this is the case because she is a CDC person who is, by example, encouraging everyone who might have a deadly disease to fragrantly violate government imposed quarantine policies. Any government employee in such a high profile who encouraged people to disregard government orders and put the public at risk would have gotten a series of very nasty phone calls threatening termination, but her endless stream of outrage hasn't included her actual employer at all, nor has she once mentioned the identity of her employer in her incessant rants directed at everyone else in the government whose policies contradict the policies of her boss.

She's being used, and soon she'll be thrown away, because the person who originally quarantined her was Chris Christie, a juicy target for the Administration, but then she moved up to Maine, and then California decided that Maine's quarantine policy was not only wise, it was the sensible thing to do based on the science and a deep desire to protect the public. The old narrative will become unworkable and be abandoned, and with it the idiot nurse who is probably just doing what her bosses tell her, gloriously reveling in becoming so important to them, even an insider in their machinations.

BTW, one of the things that dropped her in quarantine was not only had she bragged that she'd been directly treating Ebola patients, a forehead scan said her temperature was 101F.

Now in protest she says 'This whole time I have been symptom-free. I believe the forehead scanner was inaccurate. My temperature was normal when taken by oral thermometer."

Heck, Duncan had better reason to believe he didn't carry Ebola that she does. He didn't think he'd been exposed because the woman who exposed him thought she just had malaria, as did everyone else at the time. This idiot nurse at least claims she's been in direct contact with Ebola victims (that remains to be confirmed), so perhaps she's in denial. The gods of viral hemorrhagic fevers are brutal on the denialists. Her townsfolk are right to denounce her behavior as selfish and reckless. Meanwhile New Hampshire has eight people under involuntary Ebola quarantine.

This is where yoyr stupidity really shines through. You anf gturner see this as a political thing. That right there casts suspicion on what you have to say. The many people in this thread who have called you guys out for your idiocy see this as a medical/health thing. One group listens to politicians with a vested interest in critiquing the CDC. The other side listens to scientists. We are talking about a deadly disease. People who are serious about the topic have left the politics behind. You are not serious about this topic.

Gul there are plenty of scientists/doctors who say to quarantine people for the 21 days. Plenty of scientists/doctors who say we should restrict flights.

The military and the states made their decisions based off scientists and medical people. Australia made it's decision based off scientists/doctors. The World Health Organization says people should be quarantined. What is this nonsense that you think the only doctors and scientists that count are the ones being pushed on you by the administration?

You need a 21 day quarantine at minimum to show a person doesn't have Ebola. There should be no exception to this. Ebola is a dangerous disease that is not detectable until you get sick from it. When you do get sick you shouldn't be wandering around which is what the guy in New York City did.

That nurse in Maine could have it and not know it.

CDC admits droplets from a sneeze could spread Ebola

My dog refuses to let me catch his "Bad Joke Husky" face on camera.

Actually, that story about Duncan not having any clue was debunked by the NYT. I posted it in one of these threads.

Finally, somewhere that gturner and Zombie can feel safe:

Ebola-Free N. Korea Freaks Out Over Ebola
All foreigners entering will be put in mandatory 21-day quarantine

WTH did gturner "like" this? He seems like exactly the type who'd be roaming the streets with a baseball bat looking for "payback" for all the pain and suffering this situation has caused him.

First off, there's nothing in the corpus of European martial arts literature that covers fighting with someone carrying a highly infectious hemorrhagic fever. All the methods involve direct bodily contact and usually result in blood spurting all over the place. So a baseball bat would be wildly counterproductive. A rifle, however, might prove ideal.

Anyway, Louisiana has dis-invited a bunch of tropical disease specialists (who've been treating Ebola victims) from an upcoming conference. Scientific American link. Some of the doctors are protesting that this will hamper research and combating the outbreak. Well, gathering all the top Ebola doctors in a whore studded hotel just isn't an intelligent thing to do. Unlike an RNA virus, we can teleconference, and have advanced past the stage where we have to exchange information face-to-face, along with exchanging lethal viruses.

You can't make this up! North Korea demands a 21 day quarantine from incoming travelers?
Sure the beats the 21 year quarantine already in place!

A doctor who won the Nobel Prize in medicine in 2011 for his work on the immune system says Christie's quarantine doesn't go far enough.

Woman in Oregon that visited Liberia now isolated
VOLPONE'S GUNNA DIE OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!!!1ELEVENTYONEHUNNIT

Canada quit issuing visas for people in the countries where Ebola is out of control - because Canadians are anti-science or something.

So, are the medical personnel caring for the doc with ebola in NYC, being quarantined? Or are they allowed to live their lives like normal people?

I'm not sure, but New York governor Cuomo announced a program to pay health care workers like reservists if they go to fight Ebola, along with guaranteeing them their old job when they return, plus pay for the three-week quarantine. You might think the federal government would be leading the response, but they seem to be leading from behind again.

One thing I find irritating is that the nurse in Maine was only working with Ebola patients for three weeks before she decided to come home and demand the right to circulate freely among us prior to the 21-day period. That's little more than Ebola tourism for health care workers so they can take some selfies of them "caring". I imagine it as:

"Oh, I'm a health professional. Yep. Oooo... I want to see your smallpox ward!"
*runs through the small pox ward doing health-care looking things*

"Oooo... I want to see the unfortunate folks in your measles ward!"
*runs through the measles ward and soothes the patients*

"Oooo... I want to see your mumps ward!"
*goes in and holds people's hands*

"I simply have to see your tuberculosis unit!"
*goes in and checks some vitals*

"Our chief of medicine said I really have to see your MRSA ward, too."
*goes in and changes some bandages*

"And I simply MUST see your maternity ward!"
*goes in and cuddles all the newborn babies*

There, I fixed your post for you. Now please keep your childish judgmental whining to a minimum until you've actually volunteered to do something useful yourself.