Star Wars Anthology Series

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    Han and Lando: The Early Days?
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    Why?
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    Guess we'll never know.
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    I'd love it if the film ends with Lando and Han playing a sabacc game for ownership of the Falcon. Lando reveals a killer hand, says "Read 'em and weep. Let's see what you got." Close-up on young Solo, flawless poker face, then a sly smile breaks out. Smash cut to closing credits. Post credits scene with Han and Chewie aboard the Falcon frantically trying to keep the ship running while some peril approaches.
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    Nah, start the film with the game. Han beats Lando, later as Lando is leaving after saying goodbye to the Falcon, he spots something on the ground, and bends over to pick it up. Han, who was on the ramp, says, "Uh, oh!" turns and runs up the ramp shouting, "Chewie! Get us out of here!"

    Lando, realizing that he's been cheated out of the Falcon, starts to head towards the ship, but Chewie gets them out of there before Lando can stop them. As Han straps himself in, Chewie asks him something, Han replies with, "Of course I cheated! Everybody cheats at sabacc! How else do you think he came up with that hand he had?" The subplot of the rest of the film is Lando chasing after Han, with it being resolved at the end that both of them cheated, and Han was the better cheat.
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    I think if you're doing "young Han Solo" as a film, it has to essentially be an origin story. We've got to see Han meet Chewie and Lando. We've got to see him get the Falcon. We've got to see him change from the person he was to the person he is in the beginning of ANH.

    I don't know if it's canon (and I have ZERO knowledge of any Expanded Universe stuff) but I believe I've heard that Han was a pilot in the Imperial Navy. It would be interesting if at the beginning of the story, Han was a straight-laced Imperial officer. And the plot develops that he gets into some adventure involving Chewie and Lando--perhaps meeting them for the first time, and he winds up either going AWOL or being thrown out of the service. Since Han is so cynical in ANH, it's probably a story that doesn't necessarily have a happy ending (for Han).
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    Han as an imperial pilot would be awesome. I just hope they give us the preAHN Han, attitude and all.
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    I'm not sure, but, like I said, I think Han's character will change in the film; he has to be the Han we know from ANH by the end.

    I don't see Han ever having been idealistic a la Luke Skywalker. He's more of a realist. I imagine Han as an Imperial officer would've been someone who served the Empire because that was the reality he lived in. At some point, he has to reject that reality and turn away from serving the Empire. I'm sure Chewie and Lando will figure into that.

    Sure, Han could've been the cynical mercenary he was in ANH his whole life, but that's kinda boring. It would be much more interesting to see how he becomes that.
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    I'm not too sure about either young Han or Lando movies. They'd both be able to have effective story arcs on Rebels, which could be a reasonable timeframe for the Falcon to change hands. Hell, Lando has already played Zeb, and didn't they meet Chewbacca at one point? A 3-5 episode arc starting with a flashback of Han's defection and rescue of Chewie, getting their first ship that gets scrapped, meeting the crew, and then the eventual game stakes being the Ghost for the Falcon.
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    The no longer canon back story was established in significant detail by AC Crispin. Indeed, he was a Tie Fighter pilot who decided he'd had enough when forced to chose between helping a wookie slave (Chewbacca) and violating an order. I can't remember all the details, but basically he saved Chewie's life and freed him, which is why the latter was so emphatically loyal. Other interesting tidbits: despite the stint in the Navy, he spent much of his early years in the company of pirates and was essentially raised by a wookie who was somewhat of a surrogate aunt. That's why he understands the language and felt compelled to save Chewbacca.

    Crispin's Han Solo trilogy is definitely no longer canon, but still a fun read that I would recommend.
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    Han was also married to a wookie.
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    Emilia Clarke cast in the Han Solo movie.
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    She's playing "Mother of Rancors."
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    Is that a step up or down from "Jabba's Mom"? :unsure:
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    I'm pretty sure he will be, but I almost think he shouldn't. I like to think that Solo was in the midst of a long-term losing streak when we met him in ANH, and part of that was what got him involved with Jabba the Hutt in the first place. If we're telling the story of what happened 10 years before, there shouldn't be any real necessity of Jabba the Hutt being in the story.

    I also hope they resist the urge to put "young Boba Fett" into the mix. Lando I can abide, because it's clear he and Han go way back, but there's no reason--apart from fan service--to include Boba Fett or Jabba in Han's deep backstory.
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    Again, no longer cannon, but the AC Crispin back story for Solo has him having had a long and extensive history with Java. This is also hinted at in the originally cut then subsequently re-added scene between the two in A New Hope.
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    When I saw Phantom Menace, I fully expected to see a young Han, Lando and Boba, that was just one of many disappointments. Also, I've always assumed Han knew Janna for a long time.
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    I'll definitely see this flick but am not as stoked on it as I would be other standalones with familiar characters.

    Just make the goddamn Obi Wan movie with Ewan McGregor already, fuck.

    That makes me go from six to midnight :yeehaw:
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    I'm really glad we didn't. I agree with something Jon Campea at Collider Video said, about populating prequels with all of the same characters from films that take place later: it makes the universe smaller. Some of the things that irked me about the prequels--Anakin built C3PO, Chewbacca knows Yoda, the start of the Clone Wars involved Boba Fett's father--are all a consequence of "making the universe smaller." We get the notion that--in this entire Star Wars universe--only a few people are actually making things happen.

    If the Han Solo prequel has got Jabba, Lando, Greedo, Chewbacca, Boba Fett, then it seems like none of these characters--save Lando--has gone very far in the 10 yeas leading up to ANH.
    Solo certainly isn't from Tatooine, and it seems like he's only there because he's a bit down on his luck in ANH. Maybe he's known Jabba for years, but I like to think that Solo's gotten involved with him in recent years because he's got little other choice.
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    WANT, WANT, WANT an Ewan McGregor Obi-wan film. Preferably, a series of them.
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    Really didn't like seeing the young Greedo playing with Anakin There was no need for the character to be in the film at all, except for "fan service." (I put that in quotes, because its more an insult to the fans to have him in there, than it is to give them something they want.)
    The way I took it was that Jabba was one of a number of people that Han smuggled for, but after he had to dump his cargo on a run for Jabba, he had found getting work almost impossible, since Jabba had poisoned the well for him.

    The Star Wars universe, however, has been getting steadily smaller since Jedi. There really wasn't any reason for Jabba to be on Tatooine at all, and it would make for a better story if he lived on some other planet. That way you have the story of Han being a fairly successful smuggler, until he's forced to dump his cargo, then having to move farther and farther away from Jabba's base of operation in hopes of getting ahead of the negative news Jabba's spreading about him to get enough work to pay Jabba back.

    If Han and Jabba are on the same planet, then you have to wonder why Jabba would send such an obvious reject like Greedo to bring Han in. To scare Han into doing something rash to get the money? It makes more sense to send a whole squad of your thugs after him, rather than a lone idiot. And the Shortbus Editions further botch things by having Jabba come and see Han. If a boss like Tony Montana comes to see you, he's not leaving without either his money or your head, if not both. There's ways you could play it where it would make sense for the events you see in the various versions of the original film, but they all require a depth to the story which is beyond what the original films have. (Not a slight against the movies, the first two are grand romps in the best tradition of the old movie serials, the third film and the subsequent movies are all dominated by the worst elements of the old movie serials: cookie cutter plots and one-dimensional characters. They're not entirely horrible, but they're certainly pale imitations of the originals in many ways.)
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    Jabba didn't necessarily send Greedo.
    Remember him telling Han that if he gave him the money he'd maybe forget to tell Jabba he'd found him?
    Sounds more like Greedo just knew that Han was into Jabba for the money and was just trying to make a buck either for snitching or by scamming.
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    A theory completely ruined by the Shortbus Editions.



    From the way it sounds, Greedo was the guy Jabba called when he needed some low-level thug whacked. Jabba doesn't deny sending Greedo and Han seems insulted that Jabba picked Greedo. And Gawd, does that CGI Jabba suck ass.
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    I hope that Gary get's his own film.

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    The DVD edition made him look more like the Jedi version.
    Although, that scene is still redundant and worthless.
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