Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

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  1. Ancalagon

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    :lol:

    I don’t care who you are, this is funny.

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    Right. So if you can see why Netanyahu would do it, presumably you can see why people who agree with his policies in the west would do it. And you may begin to see why they would do it about "mass rape" as well. You should review the role of Zaka, the extremist Israeli group in propagating much of this stuff.

    Also, if you look earlier in the thread, you can see that after being initially hesitant, I actually bought into these stories such was the manner that they were being laundered in the western media.
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    Therefore, starve and murder small children. Unfortunately for you, there will never be a circumstance where that will be okay to endorse.
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    When I read stories like that, I try to analyze the source, and consider the context.
    In general, I'd be surprised if a group that has never demonstrated humane treatment of their enemies didn't commit mass rape. So hearing that it occurred? That's easy to believe.
    The baby thing? I'm more likely to believe it was a lot fewer than the high numbers initially reported, but more because I don't think they ran across that many babies.
    Fundamentalist Islamic terrorists have long demonstrated they are capable of things I can barely comprehend. I remember watching that video of Nicholas Berg being beheaded, and how much it disturbed me. I've always thought that people capable of doing that are probably capable of almost anything.
    But I put them on the same level as cartel members, Abu Ghraib guards, and others of similar stripe.
    If you told me cartel members were committing mass rapes in Sinaloa, I'd believe that pretty easily.
    I wouldn't really put anything past Hamas, after I've seen what they're already willing to do. And since that doesn't change my opinion that the Israelis are being as bad in their own way, I'm not too inclined to dig into the particulars of the crimes they are accused of.
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    You can fuck right off with that bullshit. :brood:

    You know who's responsible for feeding children and keeping them safe? Their parents. And to a lesser extent, the governments elected and/or supported by those parents. That's how parenting works. That's how government works.

    The parents of Gaza had an obligation to keep their kids fed and safe. Hamas, the government of Gaza, had an obligation to keep those kids fed and safe. Instead they started a war while making no plan to keep the children of Gaza fed or safe, and instead putting those children directly in the line of fire so they could be "martyrs."

    If I punch my boss in the mouth tomorrow and get fired, that's my fault. My boss isn't some villain that got me fired. That's on me.

    When Hamas starts a war and makes their own backyard the battleground, that's on them.

    Those dead and/or starving children are 100% the responsibility and the fault of Hamas and the Gazan parents that support them. :shrug:
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  6. RickDeckard

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    There are Irish troops who had been working as peacekeepers in southern Lebanon deployed with UNIFIL. In between attacking the local hospital, the IDF just claimed that they're being used as shields and demanded that they leave. Our guys have refused.

    Probably just a matter of time before the IDF attack them, which would be a very bad idea for them.
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    Oh no, are the Irish are gonna do to Israel what they did to the Germans in WWII? :marathon:
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    There will certainly be diplomatic and political ramifications to any such attack. Troops from several nations are deployed there, including some NATO members. But we know the IDF don't like having witnesses around, so...
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    Go on. Say it. Go full Castle. We know you want too.
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    It’s coming I can feel it…


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    The IDF has set up a Foward Operating Base (FOB) right outside UNIFIL outpost 6-52 in Southern Lebanon, currently manned by Irish Peacekeepers.

    The UN has protested FOB, saying it endangers UNIFIL troops.

    Hezbollah has told Irish Defence Forces they will not fire on the area despite the IDF presence to avoid inadvertently hitting the Irish troops.

    Here's a picture taken by an Irish soldier.

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    A clear and deliberate use of human shields. Utter scum.
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  14. 14thDoctor

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    Rick last December:

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    :lol:

    Three vehicles stopped (for we don’t know how long) doesn’t make a FOB.

    That’s not even a Patrol Base.
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    It's a FOB according to the UN. Maybe the UN is Hamas.
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    Show your work @Billy.
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    At least one decorated UN employee was Hezbollah, they admitted so themselves. :async:
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    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...ents-cast-doubt-over-limited-lebanon-invasion
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    A forward operating base (FOB) is any secured forward operational level military position, commonly a military base, that is used to support strategic goals and tactical objectives.[1] A FOB may contain an airbase, hospital, machine shop, and other logistical facilities. The base may be used for an extended period of time. FOBs are traditionally supported by main operating bases that are required to provide backup support to them.[2][3][4]A FOB also improves reaction time to local areas as opposed to having all troops on the main operating base.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forward_operating_base

    Three parked tanks (we don’t know for how long) doesn’t make a FOB.
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    Thank you.

    So not the UN, but ‘an official, who spoke on condition of anonymity’.

    Gotcha.
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    A UN official. Nitpicking terminology (who gives a shit if it meets your definition of a forward operating base?) doesn't change the underlying point here, however much you want to cheerlead for the genocidal army making threats against UN peacekeepers.
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    We have no idea who the fuck he is, what he does (janitor?) or anything at all really except for a photo of three tanks parked.

    It is not nitpicking to say that three tanks parked doesn’t make a forward operating base! :lol:
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    Three tanks parked (for we don’t know how long) = using human shields isn’t exactly beating the rap that for some folks everything the Jews do is a war crime.
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    Of course it is, since whether it constitutes a base or not isn't the issue, you tiresome pedant.
    The claim "it's three tanks and therefore a base" was not made in any event. That's just what you want to focus on.
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    But since you will insist on this bullshit...

    https://www.rte.ie/news/primetime/2...il-zone-what-we-know-of-about-recent-clashes/

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    And another.

    https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-pea...zbollah-6507568-Oct2024/?utm_source=shortlink

    Yeah, building defensive positions is definitely something they'd be doing if they just randomly parked up for a bit and moved on. :dayton:
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    So is the IDF "forcing civilians to remain in or near buildings used for fighting, which is what human shielding actually means?" :chris:
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    Yes, they do that regularly. Strangely, positioning themselves beside a peacekeeping force who can't leave lest they massacre the people in the neighbouring village is also using human shields.
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    And somehow Hamas never does the same. Incredible . :bergman:
    Funny, that's not the definition you provided in December. :chris:
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