Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

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  1. RickDeckard

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    Netanyahu just made another more direct threat against UNIFIL, who are still refusing to budge.

    Now, Italy and France are part of UNIFIL and also members of NATO, with hundreds of troops in Southern Lebanon. What will happen when the IDF attacks the troops of a NATO member country?

    This stuff is nowhere near as bad as what is happening in Jabalia right now, but unfortunately western governments care very little about that.
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    Netanyahu needs this war, these wars, to stay in power. Unfortunately this seems to be what Israel's foreign policy boils down to these days. Maybe someone smarter than I am can point it out to me, but I don’t see how Israeli security is enhanced by what it’s doing in the region right now.
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    About a hundred 100 US troops to get real world experience on shooting down Iranian and Russian ballistic missiles.

    U.S. to Deploy Missile Defense System and About 100 Troops to Israel
    The Pentagon announced it would send the Terminal High Altitude Area Defense battery and its crew as Israel considered retaliatory attacks against Iran.


    Archived NYT story:
    https://archive.ph/i2jph
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    There's so much the IDF seems to be doing sloppily and ineffectively at the moment, but...

    Iran’s government is extremely nervous and has been engaging in urgent diplomatic efforts with countries in the Middle East to gauge whether they can reduce the scale of Israel’s response to its missile attack earlier this month and – if that fails – help protect Tehran, sources familiar with the matter told CNN.

    Iran’s anxiety stems from uncertainty about whether the US can convince Israel not to strike Iranian nuclear sites and oil facilities, and the fact that its most important proxy militia in the region, Hezbollah, has been significantly weakened by Israeli military operations in recent weeks, the sources said.

    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/10/11/politics/iran-nervous-israel-response-missile-attacks

    IMHO it's great news that Iran is scared. They've been doing their fun little proxy war thing against Israel for decades like they never expected Israel to retaliate directly or seriously. If Israel can keep Iran intimidated enough that they actually stop backing Hamas and Hezbollah, that would be a huge win for peace. :async:
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    The absolute state of this.

    This is the Israeli account of their attack on UNIFIL. :rofl:

    [​IMG]

    The truth, from the guys attacked:

    Also, they've just taken 67 casualties after the Golani Brigade Base was hit. :rofl:

    They've barely set foot in Southern Lebanon before being chased back out again. Once again a demonstration that they're an effective killing machine but a mediocre fighting force.

    [​IMG]
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  6. 14thDoctor

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    Wow.
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    On the one hand as I have stated I disagree with the IDFs actions in Southern Lebanon.

    On the other hand your reveling in the death of Jews is disgusting.

    Fuck the fuck off.

    The Palestinians deserve better than those that like to pretend to defend them.
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    Yeah. Remember how excited he was with the Iranian regime attack and claimed and celebrated multiple missiles hitting Tel Aviv and an Israeli air base being ‘wiped off the map’ and then how sad he was when none of it was true?

    We should all wait for legit media before taking a Hamas supporters word for what is going down.
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    Get the fuck out of my face with that shit. They're not being killed because they're "Jews". These are members of a military force attacking Lebanon and committing genocide in Gaza. They are 100% a legitimate target, unlike the hundreds of people in high rises buildings in Beirut whose murder you celebrate.
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    Why would anyone ever think you were reveling in the death of Jews?!?!

    IMG_2513.jpeg

    I don’t know how I got here.

    Someone please explain to me how I got here.
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    The cartoon depicts soldiers. Because someone is a Jew, they're allowed to attack you and you don't fight back?

    Absolutely ludicrous.
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    And you know, when Biden shortly deploys troops to Israel to shield them against the consequences of their actions, it'll be good if those people get fucked up too. Whether they're Jews, Christians, Muslims or Hindus.
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    It's the celebratory laughter in response to Israeli casualties that makes you a bad person.
    And your masturbatory glee at the thought of American troops getting attacked.

    You're not a good person. :shrug:
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    How many times have you hit the laughter emoji in response to credible reports of children being massacred in Gaza? Do you know that they bombed a group of kids playing football today? Fuck all the way off.

    These guys are committing genocide. It needs to happen again and again until they stop.
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    I hit the laughter emoji in response to people like you and Amaris repeating terrorist propaganda without a hint of shame while pretending you're not on their side. Because both of you are fucking jokes.

    Next time you repeat a Hamas lie about the IDF blowing up a daycare filled with a million billion adorable orphans and demand the rest of us engage in some performative condemnation with you, I'll remember when you laughed about 67 Israeli casualties.


    "Any man's death diminishes me" = classy, honourable, respectable

    "Some deaths diminish me, other deaths make my peepee tingle" = weird, bad, typically Irish
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    How Freudian. :bergman:
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  17. RickDeckard

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    :dayton:

    The "Hamas propaganda" comes from just about every credible third party in the world. You laugh at it anyway. You've made it absolutely clear that you're more than okay with Palestinians dying in very large numbers. So kindly shut the fuck up.

    :dayton:

    The massive glaring cosmically fucking huge difference between kids in an orphanage and soldiers is that killing kids is terrorism and killing soldiers is legitimate warfare. You'd think that you could at least keep that straight, given the situation. But no, turns out everyone is supposed to observe ten minutes silence and cry blood whenever the IDF takes a tenth of the pain that Gaza suffers every day. Personally I'll save that for innocent civilians - of any shade - caught up in this.
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    Cool story, bro :cool:
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    More information from CNN:

    The news comes after Hezbollah said Sunday it had fired a swarm of attack drones on an Israeli infantry training camp in Binyamina, a town north of Tel Aviv that lies some 40 miles from the Lebanese border.

    So Hezbollah didn't even attack the IDF troops currently in Lebanon, they had to use drones to attack a training camp 40 miles from the border. :chris:
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    Fucking hell, videos floating around of people burning to death in an attack at a hospital.

    Anyone who supports such things because their side is special and should be allowed a few war crimes as a treat should be forced to watch videos like that on a loop Clockwork Orange style.
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    Got a link?
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    Bailey It's always Christmas Eve Super Moderator

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    Nope, sure you can find it easily enough if you want to go digging but I've got no desire to see it again.
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    :nopics:

    Thank you for not feeding the desires of certain people to see the pain and suffering of those they are prejudiced against. Your reputation as a person who does not partake of bullshit news should be enough to trust you for anyone without a huge desire to see dead burnt bodies to satisfy their genocide boner.

    Sometimes you just trust a person.
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    It looked real enough and reports lined up enough to treat the video itself as real, whether or not it's from an incident today or not, so my comment on it shouldn't be taken as a trustworthy source on its provenance.

    The one thing I can be sure of is that the world would be a better fairer place if anyone on any side who defends shit like it was instantly teleported to take the place of victims instead when something like it happens.
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    The reality is there are a lot of people on both sides who are looking for this sort of footage as masturbation material. For the rest of us I think we recognize there is some horrific war shit going on when both sides are attacked. Anyone who thinks that one side is not participating in some over the top violence for the purpose of terrorizing the other is wrong. Both sides are clearly trying to the best of their abilities to do inhumane torture of the other side. The only reason either side may do more or less is merely their ability to cause such damage, and not some sort of ethics or morals against gratuitous sadistic violence on their enemies.

    At this point looking for the graphic bloody links shows a lot about the character of the people looking for them. It is either for the purposes of working yourself up to violence, or the sadistic enjoyment of the violence.
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    A good chunk of the males did go (minus the wealthy and well-connected who always skate). Mostly early Boomers because by the time the we late Boomers came of age, the war was finally over. One of the few breaks that "Generation Jones" got from being Boomers.
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    Maybe there is an idea here. Anyone who has the need to send resources to this holy war should be sent over to fight. I really do not give a fuck which side they are choosing to fight for, but enough of sending others to fight for you in this worthless exchange of crap, go do it yourself.

    Stop telling me what I need to do about 2 cults of lies fighting over their land thousands of miles away from me. If I wanted to fight over some land with some religious nutbars I am going to do it with the christian nationalists when they force me to abide by their religious beliefs over the social contract.
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    Like you, perhaps? I wanted the people in those videos living safe peaceful lives far, far away from Gaza, but you insisted that would constitute "ethnic cleansing" so they needed to stay. :async:

    Hang on, I had something prepared for this:

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    Just seen it. :(

    And they've admitted it, albeit they call it a "precision strike" on a "terrorist compound".

    There has been a constant stream of such videos for a year. But I'm told I shouldn't get mad at the people doing it.
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  30. Demiurge

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    You should be mad at the people who caused it. There was not outright warfare between Israel and Iran's proxy militia's until 10/7. And anyone with a brain should have known that would have caused an enormous reaction by Israel.

    But then, there's a lot of stupid people in the world. Like the ones who think there's any chance for the terrorists to win this.

    And the ones who voted in a terrorist political party that had genocide in it's foundational charter.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati...clusive-hamas-documents-sinwar-planning-iran/

    Captured documents reveal Hamas’s broader ambition to wreak havoc on Israel
    Dozens of pages found by Israeli troops in Gaza detail a potential Hamas plan far bigger than the Oct. 7, 2023, attack, and show how militant leaders wanted Iranian funds and training.

    Years before the Oct. 7, 2023, attack, Hamas’s leaders plotted a far deadlier wave of terrorist assaults against Israel — potentially including a Sept. 11-style toppling of a Tel Aviv skyscraper — while they pressed Iran to assist in helpingachieve their vision of annihilating the Jewish state, according to documents seized by Israeli forces in Gaza.

    Electronic records and papers that Israeli officials say were recovered from Hamas command centers show advanced planning for attacks using trains, boats and even horse-drawn chariots — though several plans were ill-formed and highly impractical, terrorism experts said. The plans anticipate drawing in allied militant groups for a combined assault against Israel from the north, south and east.

    The trove of documents includes an annotated, illustrated presentation detailing possible options for an assault as well as letters from Hamas to Iran’s top leaders in 2021 requesting hundreds of millions of dollars in funding and training for 12,000 additional Hamas fighters.It is unclear whether Iran knew of the planning document or responded to the letters, but Israeli officials view the requests as part of a larger effort by Hamas to draw its Iranian allies into the kind of direct confrontation with Israel that Tehran has traditionally sought to avoid.
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