Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

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  1. RickDeckard

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    ^^^

    Ah yes, the Very Serious People of the Atlantic Council and RAND Corporation. Trouble is that Israel hasn't ceased firing, and aid isn't "rushing in", since they've declared that they'll continue to restrict it in violation of the agreement (and the Geneva Convention).
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    Large scale attacks again now as Israel tries to protect its ISIS-linked collaborators from Hamas in Rafah. So they seem to be dropping even the pretence. That lasted 9 days.
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    Unconfirmed, but lots of reports that an explosion which Netanyahu used to conduct bombing and stop aid supplies was a result of an Israeli bulldozer running over unexploded ordinance, with the White House stepping in to quietly tell Israel that they know what happened and to back down.
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    Yup. Doc still can't respond. Clearly, he's too chickenshit to accept the idea that the US would attack Canada, despite the fact that we've done it more than once.
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    The "suspension" of all humanitarian aid remains in force as of today. That is, tens of thousands of children who are already permanently affected by malnutrition and trying to recover in some way, have had their food stopped again.

    Oh, and the IDF shot some more people this morning. Apparently not newsworthy though.

    I wonder if @Paladin thinks that these are provocations, or if this pattern of behaviour is the "restraint" he predicted.
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    Israel are showing a lot of restraint in Lebanon too, switching from violating the ceasefire there by bombing Hezbollah to violating the ceasefire there by bombing construction equipment and quarries to prevent reconstruction in the south.
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    1. You are entitled to nothing.

    2. If American government tried to invade Canada and the rest of America didn't immediately rise up to depose and execute those responsible, then all of your lives are forfeit and the entire country deserves to be cleansed with fire.

    3. If my provincial or municipal government carried out an October 7 style attack on our neighbors, I'd do my best to execute those responsible and stick their heads on pikes as a warning to the next ten generations. Failing that, I'd fully expect to die along with my loved ones in a well deserved cleansing fire.
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    An interesting observation about a country which has invaded literally dozens of others since WW2.
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    And if those countries organized their own cleansing fires I wouldn't blame them one bit. I was fully onboard with Iraq handing out some retribution after Dubya was reelected. :clyde:
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    Yeah, I'm sure that if Iraq organised terrorist attacks on American cities in 2006, they'd have had your full support. :rolleyes:
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    I wouldn't have been planting backpacks if that's your standard for "full support," but my position was that it would have been deserved. I said as much in TNZ at the time, which I was several years before I signed up here. :clyde:
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    These are obviously lies and in reality you'd be a cowardly hypocrite. But I find it hilarious that you've now put yourself in the position that you're having to insist against all incredulity that not only do you support terrorism against browns, Russians and official enemies, you also support it against westerners as well. No, really! :facepalm:
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    Believe what you want to believe. :dayton:
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    I dunno, seems to me they're sitting pretty.
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    Yeah :(
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    https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/416577

    Al Jazeera have obtained a list of 30,000 Israeli air force pilots and personnel, with photos and personal information. Many of them are dual citizens of other places and every one of them is a war criminal. When this list is obtained by lawyers working to prosecute them in various jurisdictions, they will be spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulders. :)
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  19. Diacanu

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    I was thinking, where MAGA is lousy with Nazis, and red states are lousy with MAGA, then it must be okay to genocide the red states.
    And turn them into golf courses.
    And have a guy with a creepy gummy smile tell horrible jokes about it.
    Right? Isn't that how it works?
    And given that, if someone were like "hey, don't genocide the red states, you're gonna kill all kinds of innocent people, including kids!" you can just go "ah, you're a MAGA lover!".
    Right?
    No? Huh.
    I saw some asshole apply that logic in some other thread.
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    There's been some news stories lately about the "innocent" American businesses that are suffering as a result of Trump's tariff bullshit and the resulting Canadian boycotts of American products. The consensus in Canada is "fuck off, none of you are innocent so long as you keep letting Trump get away with his bullshit."

    Obviously genocide is a bit much, and it's obvious to everyone by now that Israel went way, way too far in their response to October 7th, but I hate this idea that a people can let their government do awful evil shit that harms others while somehow being immune from any sort of accountability for those actions. If your dog runs around biting people and you just watch, you're getting kicked in the head right after the dog. If your kid runs around breaking shit in a store and you just watch, you're getting the bill. If your president or your ruling party murders a bunch of innocent people and you just watch, you don't get to pretend it has nothing to do with you. :clyde:
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    https://time.com/7327689/trump-israel-gaza-deal-interview-transcript/

    Interview with Trump. Rambling nonsense mostly but as per usual he says the quiet part out loud.

    Some of us like to maintain the fictions that the US has no control over Israeli policy and that protests against the genocide have been ineffective. They are wrong.
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    Your position on that is still painfully simplistic. :dayton:
    Qatar bribing Trump with a plane and a golf course has done more for Gaza than all of the protests combined.
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    Tell us again how you were really against this all along. :dayton:
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    Nah, Hamas/Gaza legitimately deserved some shit for October 7th, and because of how they structured things on their side it was inevitably going to be messy and bloody and full of "collateral damage." Israel doing a lousy job of eliminating Hamas and it's infrastructure and going all-in on fucking over Gazan civilians doesn't change that. :clyde:
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    Yeah. They've drained the Oct 7th sympathy battery.
    To the point it won't take a recharge.
    They fried it.
    When they started killing aid workers and journalists, that's when they permanently lost me.

    Then that has to boomerang back to Israel, doesn't it?

    Otherwise, it's "protecting the west" superseding everything, and "the west" is barely dog-whistle for white.
    And white money.
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    Indeed. The logic of his last few posts is that he supports the October 7th attacks. Although of course he's far too much of a hypocrite to actually make that leap. Why?

    Yep, that's why.
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    Iran and it's proxies/patsies get no sympathy from me, but if Qatar or the UAE or Ireland decided to bomb Israel into acting right, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. It's long past time the Israelis rose up and kicked Netanyahu and his genocidal buddies out of office. :async:
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    The brass neck you have to be offhandedly saying that with your record on the topic is actually impressive.
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    1. Kill yourself. :)

    2. If Hamas had attacked Israeli settlers in the West Bank I'd have probably said they had it coming. :clyde:
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