It's Good News Friday! (CLIMATE CHANGE)

Discussion in 'The Red Room' started by We Are Borg, Aug 6, 2021.

  1. Crosis36

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    That's... not what that sentence means. Try reading it again.
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  2. Paladin

    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    I know what you meant.

    If Bill Gates wants to spend his wealth ameliorating the effects of climate change in poor nations, I'm fine with it.
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    But you know that's not solely what he's advocating for.
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    He just publicly stated that the priority should shift from curbing emissions to adaptation.

    I'm not sure you've realized how seismic a shift that is.

    And I expect he's just the first leak in a dam that's a out to break.
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  5. Crosis36

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    A) I don't care what the guy whose wife left him over his Epstein ties has to say about anything.
    B) The implication that we should just give up on trying to shift to renewable, non harmful energy is idiotic no matter who suggested it. Just because the college dropout made a billion dollars from inventing Windows doesn't make him an authority on anything but 1990's-era computer programming.

    And the only reason you care is to try to score points for your own worldview.
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  6. Paladin

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    And the knives come out for the appstate!
    That's not really what he (or most others) are suggesting. You're equating "not using government power to coerce a transition" with "giving up." Efforts still continue where technology looks promising
    While I wouldn't go that far, I agree that Gates isn't an expert because he was successful in the tech business.

    The difference is: you only voice this criticism now that he's perceived as being against you.
    For me, the symbolism of Gates' statement is much more significant than the actual statement.
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    Democrats Aren't Talking Climate Any More

    https://www.politico.com/news/magaz...te-change-affordability-trump-column-00609841

    Good start, now drop the "I Hate America" part of your party, get tough on crime and don't bother discussing trans issues and they might get elected back into office at some point
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  8. Paladin

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    Alarmism isn't working. Even among people who are deeply concerned, the mood has settled into dejected apathy.

    And the costs are huge for no observable and little future benefit. Do you want your electric bill to double to make the Earth 0.0002 C cooler in 50 years? Probably not.

    Climate is a loser, electorally speaking. I've no doubt someone will revive this monster in years to come, but for now, it just isn't popular.
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    Unfortunately the laws of physics don't care about popularity.
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    No, they don't. But it may be that alarmism isn't justified by the physics.
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  11. Crosis36

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    The "appstate"?
    Government power is the only way to properly effect swift change.
    I've never had much reason to pay attention to him before. And I never have paid much Attention.
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  12. notnick

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    just like 'slavery' the only problem is your ilk keep tring to bring it back 'idealy' getting rid of the likes of you would improve 'reality' immensely
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  14. Crosis36

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    The $150 billion / year price tag for hurricane damage in the USA, and the ballooning HOI cost in Florida that's causing a panic in the state government, seems to disagree with you.
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    Hurricanes aren't more common or more destructive in Florida;. Over time, hurricanes do more monetary damage simply because there's more built up stuff for them to hit.

    And home insurance rates don't seem to be high enough to keep people from moving there.
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    That should be the last anyone hears from you about "bootlicking," you complete fucking fraud. You're not opposed to coercive force. Your arrogant hypocrite ass just thinks only you are qualified to approve it.
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  17. Crosis36

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    Wrong. The data indisputably shows hurricanes are increasing in frequency and strength.

    Wrong again.
    Screenshot_20251029_121547_Edge.jpg

    Surprisingly, the guy who lives in Florida knows more about it than the guy who lives on the other side of the country.
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    I was referring to things like tax credits for EVs, government- funded research, and efforts to help states like West Virginia transition away from an economy so heavily reliant on fossil fuels.
    You moron. Or course you are only able to see power as something used to overwhelm people.
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    Government purse-stringing and arm-twisting on your behalf, so you can post about how you did your part to "save the world" without lifting one chubby little sausage finger.

    I see coercion for what it is, and it doesn't suddenly become morally pure when YOU agree with the cause.
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    Everywhere, because you're a fucking paranoid reactionary.
    A textbook one.
    And everyone sees it but you.
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  21. Crosis36

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    Wow. What a small, sad worldview you have, to see tax credits and funding as arm twisting.
    There's really no point in trying to argue reason and logic with a guy who's opposed to things like non-smoking sections.

    So you're opposed to Obergefell, then?
    Because that's government coercion too.
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    Screenshot_20251029_124036_Edge.jpg

    I see you agree that you're a moron.
    Good to know.
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    oh my another uninformed idiot hurricanes are increasing in intensity due to overall rise in ocean temperatures. the people that are moving HERE are like you cluless and stupid. that's just like saying oh look all of those people are jumping off the cliff lets go do it ourselves it MUST BE OK. go back to your guns they are the only thing that understands you. we in Florida and the US have been lucky as hell this year so far....ain't you in California? stuck tp earthquakes yeah cracks are just right up your alley
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