Well, we've got a thread on our inevitable decline into civil war. Possible, granted, but at the moment it seems pretty unlikely. How about this one? The good guys win, Harris is the next POTUS, and Trump realizes he's going to prison. Which non-extradition country do you think he'll choose to flee to?
Really, the only option is Russia. But I have to think there'd be some restriction on allowing a former President to literally flee the country. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be allowed to just move to Russia.
He's got golf courses in other countries, easy enough for him to file a flight plan to fly to one of them on business, then change course and never come back. Did emhe ever surrender his passport like he was supposed to?
Well, that's at first glance, but Putin has a short leash and people who disappoint him tend to fall out of windows. So I'm thinking somewhere less obvious. As to fleeing the country, never had a traitor president before. So as far as I'm aware there are no laws in place to prevent it.
I think Zachary Taylor joined the Confederacy, so I think we have. On the other hand, that was long before Presidents had the kind of classified knowledge they have now.
Remember when you were calling for another civil war over Hillary's emails? Pepperidge Farms remembers.
Trump is currently restricted from leaving the country due to his sentencing and conviction of felonies. He is also indicted and charged with others awaiting trial. As an ex president he has a constant Secret Service presence around him. He is also one of the most recognizable people ever, and he seems pretty unable to disguise himself. Maybe the courts let him leave on request and he does not come back, but for right now he does seem stuck inside the US.
Would the secret service actually stop him if he ordered his plane to change course? Is it within their mandate to stop him from committing crimes, or are they only there to protect him?
My understanding is that they are law enforcement officers under the US Federal government, so they could be given an order to prevent him from leaving. However, the other side of it is he can decline their presence at any time. So hop a flight over to Spain, tell them to get off his plane, go where ever he wants. The big question is will the court order him to surrender his passport.
I have no real idea on this one. I would think they asre loyal to the US government over Trump and fall under law enforcement where they would either stop him themselves, or call it into another Law Enforcement agency to do so. One thing I can say is I do not think Trump could board a commercial airline to get out of the country, and I would think his pilot would have to expect to be arrested for flying him out of the country knowingly because they would have to file non-fraudulent flight plans to take off. Also, Trump would have to take something he could easily and legally sell as I am sure his properties would be seized and his accounts frozen if he leaves. How useful; is Trump to Putin once he flees the US and has everything he left taken from him. Trump isn't like the rest of us. He has never had to survive without an attachment to the scams and his ability to get money from his name. He would most certainly be taken into custody on request of the US government in any allied country with extradition treaties. This is not a guy who can lay low. He would have to go somewhere like Russia where he would immediately become a problem for their government. He becomes a broken and damaging tool once he runs. Why would Putin even put up with the orange clown man?
I don't see him fleeing. Let's just explore a (fingers crossed) Harris win since if Trump wins he's definitely escaping any further prosecution. He'll be shaken by a loss but still defiant, and believing that consequences will never actually catch up with him. To flee before incarceration would look like a cowards move, admitting defeat, and I don't see that. Once/if incarceration becomes certain it will then be too late for him to try and flee.
One of those Russian vassal states, something that ends in 'stan' He probably isn't going anywhere, it will be tough to grift people like @Steal Your Face out of their life savings from the other side of the world
President Harris would let any criminal proceedings against Trump go forward, then pardon him after he was sentenced.
President Harris will be too busy dismantling American democracy and opening our borders to worry about Trump.
Just want to point out that unless his plane took a flight over the North Pole, or he went West to East on his flight, he'd almost certainly have to fly over Ukraine. Not saying anything, just saying...
