Random Star Trek discussion

I've heard people say that a lot, but outside of a few really bad outliers, I never really saw it myself. Archer feels like the Vulcans' paternalistic attitudes kept his father from realizing his lifelong dream before he died; that belief is not entirely unfounded; and he reacts to it in a believable human way that still doesn't keep him from being likable — he's resentful, but not beyond reason.

"A Night in Sickbay" was a piece of shit and absolute character assassination that had him acting like a petulant, horny 14-year-old. But I see that more as an exception than as the rule.

Unfortunately, I see ANIS as more the rule than the exception. The episodes where I would say Archer showed restraint, diplomacy, maturity, courage or any of the other many positive characteristics that we have come to expect from basically all Starfleet officers, let alone captains, on a routine basis are relatively few and far between.

My head headcanon has always been that Archer was a nepo baby, and probably was unqualified to captain the Enterprise. But he did the best he could.
That other captain of the Columbia, in my headcanon, was the more competent captain who should have been on the Enterprise.
I think if they'd leaned into that concept a bit more, it could have been really interesting.

but... the gazelle speech!!!

Oh. Red Letter Media is reviewing DS9 season 1!



I am not ashamed to say that I would pay a ridiculous amount of money for a remastered DS9 on Blu Ray.

I've been listening to Newbie Star Trek, where the premise is that two people who have never seen it before (Ricardo and Sara) watch TNG and DS9 in order, along with one person who knows the series pretty well (Marvin) and one who is only loosely familiar (Dan). It'll make you crazy if you're really detail-oriented (one ongoing schtick is that Ricardo is terrible with names, so he calls Dax "Worm Lady" and Klingons are all "Worfians"), but it's also fun to see it vicariously as if watching for the first time. And at least some of the hosts work in TV and film, so they sometimes analyze it that way in addition to reacting as viewers.

They released it the day Academy came out and got more views for a show that was released for free.

I'm so sick of this "they hate the fans!" bullshit.
Motherfuckers, Paramount suits hated Trek and its fans since the 60's!
It took massive letter bombardment campaigns to get both season 2 and 3 of TOS.
It took convention merch profits to put a blowtorch up their asses to make TMP and get the movies rolling.
Trek didn't become a juicy cash cow they were suddenly proud of 'til mid TNG!
Hate the fans? Who cares?
This is the shit snowflake narcissists get bent up about.
And that's if the stupid conspiracies were TRUE, but they're fucking lies.

Of course, what the grifters consider the "the fans" is a narrow little strip of people they consider worthy.
There's that too.

And Mr. Beast gets more views than both of them combined. By multiple factors.
Good God, you really have nothing useful to contribute to discussion.

LMAO!!!!!

You know that DS9 episode where Jadzia says to O'Brien she can tell what age and how people are going to die by looking at them??

Imagine if afterwards she looks in a mirror and is all "oh dear God!"

Which brings up, I think Radar knew Blake was going to die.

LOL cats!

They did a really funny bit at the end with "Conscience of the King" and "Duet" comparing it to Academy.

*Radar steps into OR*

Radar: "I have a message. Lt. Col. Henry Blake's plane was shot down over the Sea of Japan. It spun in. There were no survivors."

*Radar leaves OR*

*Doctors' and nurses' faces all register shock, horror and sadness, but continue working*

*Radar steps outside. Looks directly into camera.*

*Smiles*

We might be on the verge of seeing the "Riker Maneuver."

Yeah, that wasn't actually too funny. It just undercut their general point.
Essentially, they took a soliloquy from an episode that is considered the pinnacle not just of DS9 but of all Star Trek and compared it to a one-off bit meant for humor. You might as well compare it to Kirk sitting on a tribble, or Worf saying he's not a merry man, or Tom Paris's HR disaster of a character in Caretaker.

They kind of addressed this in his point about "Move Along Home", but they also kind of missed the point as well. Despite what they said, new Trek does still take itself very seriously. "Subspace Rhapsody" dealt with a good bit of meaty character drama, they just dressed it up in song. And I feel like, if DS9 gets a pass for shoving in Ira Behr's love of Vegas lounge singers, SNW can get a pass for a musical number.

“I think I ate my com badge.” “Already?” Oh yeah there’s taking Star Trek seriously alright. Suuuure.

"Death...by jamaharon."

"Sir! The key! I seem to have dropped it in...my boot..."

"A Night In Sickbay"

"Threshold"

"Sub Rosa"

"Catspaw"

Can we please stop with the "They don't take Star Trek seriously!!!" complaint.

Let's try to actually offer legitimate critiques, okay?

I mean, the new badges are teeny, and if the magic stick-em was weak, it would conceivably fall into your food.
Apparently, that gal is a wolfer.
Worf is a wolfer, and no one gave him any shit.

Which reminds me; they've never given technobabble for what the magic stick-em is.
IRL, it's velcro, but in-universe, the back of the badges are flat metal.
Ditto the sides of the phaser holsters.

Just gonna leave these here for @Steal Your Face

TOS couldn't make up its mind on energy beings, molecular changer beings, and bodily possession.

"Beings made of energy?!?!?! We've never heard of such a thing!!!".

*Gorgon shows up*
Oh, yeah, you're old hat, and in the database. Yawn.

*Obsession*
A vampire cloud?!?! You're a madman, Kirk!! A maaadmaaaan!!

*Wolf in the fold*
Kirk- Oh yeah, like the Meletus. We've got those in zoos. Yawn.

*Turnabout intruder*
Body-swapping!?!? You're a madwoman person-saying-they're-Kirk!! A maaaaadwomaaaann!!!

*"Return To Tomorrow" had happened*

*Lights Of Zetar*
Alien possession?!?! This is unprecedented!!!

*"Is There in Truth No Beauty?" had happened*

Anyone who gets on later series for not respecting this or that piece of canon really needs to incorporate how often TOS contradicted itself or introduced technological and other advances that it promptly ignored in future episodes and for the rest of Trek.

If Starfleet made use of all of Kirk's discoveries or precedent from TOS, they could have rescued Pike from Talos IV and provided him and other disabled people with a perfect android body (I, Mudd), let all humans and Vulcans wield powerful telekinesis (Plato's Stepchildren), had Vulcans use remote mind control to get out of prison (as seen when Spock takes over a guard's mind in A Taste of Armageddon, an ability that presumably would have been useful in several other times when Kirk and Spock are captured or risk being so).

Doesn't the magic stick-em also make a slight clicky/chirpy noise on detaching/reattaching?