Star Trek Discovery. [SPOILERS WITHIN]

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  1. K.

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    Ok, I liked that. Inventive. Interesting. Hopeful. Often funny. Intriguing.
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  2. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I sped through S1 and 2 so I don't remember -- was there a turning point where Burnham decided to stop trying to be Vulcan? Or is it just that the powers that be decided to scale back on that aspect of her character?
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    It took me awhile to warm up to Ep. 1, but I got there eventually. By the time they got to the Mercantile Exchange I was all in. I really like how well this new world is realized. I think NuTrek (Picard & Disco) is doing a great job of making these new environments feel "lived in" and populated.

    I wonder if we'll see the Gorn?
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  4. Diacanu

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    She balanced her sides by the end of season 2.
    Well, really by the time she speechified that they had to stand for Starfleet ideals in the face of the Mirror Universe.
    Being pardoned by Starfleet, and getting her rank back was just a formality.
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  6. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I don't think you can name-drop the Gorn as having caused a huge problem and then not see them surface in 10 episodes. Chekhov (the playwright, not the TOS ensign) has the infamous rule that if you show an audience a gun in the first act, it has to go off by the last. So consider it Chekhov's Gorn.
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  8. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I think I would have enjoyed Burnham as a character more if they hadn't tried to shoehorn her as a reserved, emotionless would-be Vulcan and just let her be her own person.

    Because even when she wasn't on unnamed drug, she was way more emotive and soulful in this episode than she had been in the past.

    Another couple questions: was there any reason she sent the timesuit on a one-way trip, other than, "Well otherwise we don't have this season." And is there any reason a) Control can't figure out when/where they've gone to or b) use any number of the time travel methods that must be available to it to stop Discovery from succeeding in the first place?

    Or should I just enjoy that we're in a new season with an effectively rebooted show?
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    For me, it was at some point in season 2 that I started to warm up to Burnham. I think it her confronting her painful history with Spock that did it.

    Being completely honest, I generally don’t like prequels. I can’t think of one that is better than the original material. It is by its nature limited and anticlimactic. I hope this trip to 3188 is permanent for Disco.
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    Better Call Saul is equal (or nearly so) to Breaking Bad IMHO.
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    Really? I skipped the last season or 2... but I thought I’d watched enough to to figure it would never approach Breaking Bad status.

    Maybe I’ll give the last few seasons a shot.
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    For production purposes the latter, but in-universe it seems to be so that they can ensure the trip is actually one-way.

    I feel like this is why they made sure that to everyone it looked like Discovery was destroyed.

    Almost every problem in Trek has a "why don't they time travel to fix it?" question.

    :yes:
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  13. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Have you heard the good news about our Lord and Savior Jonathan Archer? /sarcasm/
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    I have to admit that I’ve only ever watched the first 3 episodes of Discovery. The show and the characters just didn’t interest me.

    And I hated the prequel idea... same reason I never watched much of Enterprise.

    But if they are rebooting the show and starting off in the far future then I might be willing to follow along. This was what I wanted from a new Trek show from the very beginning.

    No more Klingons, Romulans, Vulcans or Borg. Let’s go to some new places, meet some new aliens, move the franchise forward. The premise for this season sounds a bit like Andromeda. Hopefully this will be better executed than that show.
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    Spoiler free comprehensive review:

    God DAMN that was good!!!!!
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    Discovery has quickly become my favorite of all the Trek series. The characters are interesting, well-rounded, and the actors do an amazing job. I love the design of the show, and it helps that CGI has come a long way to make this Trek show look truly futuristic. I just re-watched the first two seasons before Thursday's premier, and other than the horrible two-part pilot, it held up well. The second season was a vast improvement with the addition of Pike and Spock, and I was genuinely intrigued with the Red Angel plot line.

    As for the third season opener, I haven't laughed this hard at a Trek episode in a long time. High Burnham was hysterical, and the filming locations and set pieces were all well done. The thing I like about Discovery over all of the Berman/Braga era Trek is that the characters actually get to show emotion and aren't played so stiffly. Even the wonderful DS9 suffered from that stiffness. But with Discovery the characters act like regular people. Burnham's reaction to arriving into the future was great -- confused, terrified, and not knowing what to do. The action in this episode was also awesome and well choreographed. I'm hooked, and can't wait for the rest of the season.
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  17. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    I'm up to date on season 2, haven't seen any season 3 yet, though what I hear sounds promising.

    I take it they are dropping weekly, not all at once?

    B/c these days I tend to binge, and I'll probably wait for the entire season before giving them my money. :D
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    Yeah, it's weekly. If the rest of the season holds up as well as the first episode did then we're in for an amazing ride.
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  19. Diacanu

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    It's been a year since I watched the previous season, but I was of the impression that Burnham sent it back so it didn't cause a paradox (i.e., the suit appeared sporadically throughout season two). She seemed to be in a panic as the wormhole was closing. If she was worried about a one-way trip, she could have just destroyed the suit.
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    I'll take "People Who Didn't Pay Attention to the 'Previously on Star Trek' Opening Segment," for $100, Alex. She explicitly tells Spock before she jumps to the future that when she gets there, she'll send the suit back as the final signal so that he knows she made it. :bailey:
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    Answer: @We Are Borg vs. USS Crazy Horse for the Daily Double!

    (I generally don't pay attention to the "previously on...")
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    I was hoping this wouldn't be a whole season of "everything is broken and awful, and only the of wet-eyed pontificating of Michael Burnham can save the Federation," but I'm still paying for this channel, so I have no one to blame but myself. Maybe she'll at least get back on the god damned ship before half the season is burned up.
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  25. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    That doesn't answer the question of why she herself doesn't go in the suit.
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  26. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Yeah, but four seasons of Discovery is 40 episodes total, whereas 3 seasons of TOS is 79. Wake me up when your SJW snowflake fest gets to that milestone. Checkmate./sarcasm

    BTW, why "CHUDs"?
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    It's what the internet chose.
    I wanted it to be SQWs (status quo warriors).
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  28. K.

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    Whereas the production budget for one episode of DISCO compares to roughly 5 episodes of TOS (adjusted), which is frankly a lot less than I thought the difference would be before looking it up, so there goes my punchline.
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    That's perfect. Totally stealing that.
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    Because Discovery is still in the the future.