Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    I'm even seeing love for Voyager and Enterprise too after Kurtzman Trek took off.

    I definitely felt like I was getting 1984'd seeing some of those same bashers that personally called me an enabler of Bermaga pretend like they loved Captain Archer now that the leads are getting more colorized. :bailey:
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    I'm only on S4, so thanks for the spoiler, @Shirogayne. :lol:
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  3. Shirogayne

    Shirogayne Gay™ Formerly Important

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    She was. Hell, I've seen more passionate acting outta her from her stin on Ryan's Hope than I usually did from Voyager. I know Mulgrew was going through a lot during those years between her divorce and reconnecting to the daughter she was forced to give up for adoption (and went back to work filming this scene three days later!). Between all that and the less than inspired writing, I don't blame her if she was checked out at times.

    Nowadays, I see Voyager less as the stage 4 cancer that ruined Trek so much as a a graveyard of broken dreams, to steal a quote from Anne Shirley. So much wasted potential. If there were any Trek series outside of TNG that could benefit from a reboot series a la JJ Abrams, it would definitely be this one.
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  4. Bickendan

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    Just binged watched the entirety of Picard last night.
    Damn.
    Daaaaaamn.

    Only complaint was how Nerak's ultimate cumupance or redemption got cut in the end.
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  5. shootER

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    This.

    Breaking Bad used stock footage, FFS.
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Finally watched the series.

    Overall grade: B

    I liked it quite a bit, but it has flaws.

    I saw the Picard resurrection coming as soon as they showed the golem. :lol:

    I was really, really hoping they'd kill off Jurati because the character is annoying as hell. I haven't seen a lot of Alison Pill's work, but does she always play characters like that? Her character in The Newsroom is basically a younger, even more neurotic version of Jurati and it sucks that she's going to be in S2. :garamet:
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  8. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    She was in AHS:Cult and played her character pretty much the same.
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  9. AlphaMan

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    Jurati was a constant source of annoyance for me... Even in the end after she killed Bruce Maddox and they just decided to let her go... MAddox had to be one of the characters I was most curious about since his 1 appearance in TNG... and I think Data mentioned him in the ep "Data's Day." I really think this show would've been better without that character.
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  10. K.

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    I really liked the Jurati character, but I agree that they wasted Maddox. There was more to do with that character after the TNG backstory.
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  11. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I just thought of something....if they ever bring Michael Dorn back as Worf....will they have to ret-con him into a Discovery Klingon??
    If they keep his classic look....then their feet are kind of nailed to the floor to explain the Discovery Klingons better.
    How's that whole thing gonna work?
    I hope Strange New Worlds sorts this out.
    :chris:
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    Omigawd!!
    Discovery ret-conned that Klingon males have double pee-pees!
    Deanna, Jadzia, and Ezri were all DP-ed!!
    :soma:
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  14. Shirogayne

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    I think that was brought up earlier, but they said they'd keep Worf's original look.
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    Meh, they updated a trio of TOS Klingons to look modern. A few tweaks to Worf's head tortoise wouldn't matter (other than to piss off the usual suspects which'd be a positive).
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    DS9 already sorted it all out (quite brilliantly, I might add) in the "Trials and Tribble-ations" episode.

    Dr. Bashir: "Those are Klingons?!?"
    Worf: "We do not discuss it with outsiders."

    :banana:

    As far as I'm concerned, end of fucking discussion. :bailey:
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  17. Steal Your Face

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  18. Steal Your Face

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    Vince Gillian isn’t a horrible writer who knew nothing about Breaking Bad that tried to turn the show into Star Wars and bragged about how big a budget he had then used a copy and paste fleet for the finale.
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    Worf's forehead evolved over the course of TNG anyway so as long as they didn't get too radical with the update (no DSC-Klingon look, which would make no sense) I wouldn't have a problem with it.
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  20. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    Do you think it’s wise to piss off a huge section of your fan base?
  21. Diacanu

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    Why does this only apply to CHUDs?
    What makes them special?

    Hey, how about if on Discovery, Michael Burnham just out of the blue goes "I'm a failure, and I give up. :(".
    And someone from Starfleet goes "well, your people are 13 percent, and commit 80 percent of the crime", and she's carted away.
    Then all the people of color in Starfleet are locked up.
    And then all the aliens.
    Then all the women.

    I dunno about you, but that would ruin the fuck out of Trek for me.
    The CHUDs would love it though.
    But I bet they wouldn't give a shit about me being alienated.
    They wouldn't utter a peep.
    How about you?
    Would you peep?
    Hmm?
    Would you give the "alienating huge segments of the fanbase", argument then?
    Come on, we both know the answer.
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  22. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    You keep using that word CHUD as if I know what it means and as if the meaning carries any weight. To answer what I think is a question about established alien makeup design, unnecessary change is unnecessary. They turned eyebrows on Andorians to little antenna things. How do you explain that?
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  23. Diacanu

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    Mirror universe SJWs.
    Y'know, the human trashcans that you watch on YT.
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  24. K.

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    This is valid criticism, and a lot of us are guilty of this, myself included, for lots of words. I can see how that would bug you, and I am sorry.

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    Right. Eyebrows. Obviously.
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  25. matthunter

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    Do you honestly think you (and those like you) are "a huge section of the fanbase"?

    Spoiler alert, you ain't.

    Just like NuWho - the ones who stuck with the series from 1963 suddenly found that the folk drawn in by the new series didn't have a huge stick up their arses as to how regeneration works or the future history of Earth or whether the Doctor has ever had sex.
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  26. Steal Your Face

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    I'm talking about this.
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  27. Steal Your Face

    Steal Your Face Anti-Federalist

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    There's not a whole generation of fans that grew up in the 90s and watched TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT?
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    There are.

    Why do you assume they outnumber the new fans?
  29. Steal Your Face

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    Personal observation. It's anecdotal, but I suspect it's true.
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    I wouldn't trust your instincts to keep you alive in a mild winter.
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