RE: The TAS rec-room. It's clearly a clunkier version, but we've had that in real history too. The 1958 World's Fair video tennis was better than Pong. Pong was two little blips. The 1958 version had little guys with rackets. Not only did we get crummy old Pong as the mass production model, it was followed up by the Atari 2600 which was total cheese. The TAS rec-room was the Atari 2600.
"Through the Lens of Time" I'm really hoping we don't get a "Spock - L'ann - Chapel - Korby" love square thing going.
meh-cathode ray tech never really changed outwardly over nearly the same span of time. They just figured out how to make it bigger, faster, more defined, more power efficient over the course of a century...
They’re going to set it up and when eventually Spock becomes totally heartbroken, that’s when embraces his Vulcan half completely and then we get to the Spock we see on TOS.
Next to Lower Decks, SNW has seen the most support of any modern Trek show to the point that most of us were shocked at its shortened fifth season so I dunno what FF is talking about with the ratings. I got a lotta friends that are too woke™ who have given up on this specific show but we are absolutely the minority there.
I watched the episode again last night, sort of. I had it playing while working on some things. When the intro to "The Last Frontier" starts playing, Maxwell Saint gives intro monologue "This is the tale of the USS Adventure, on its eighty four month adventure.". An nice reference to some of the previous series lasting for seven seasons.
That the SNW recreation room/holodeck looks identical to a TNG-era holodeck does not mean that it was identical to a TNG-era holodeck. any more than the fact that there are humanoid androids in TOS has any negative issues for Data being a Big Deal. Nor does it detract from the notion that they had the tech to make a holodeck in this time frame. Nor that as far as we know many of the tech advances discovered by NX-01 are ignored by their successors, and many of the tech advances encountered by the the original 1701 or 1701D are not as far as we know put into wide use.
I agree 100%. The whimsical episodes would be more effective if the seasons were longer, especially since SNW already has plenty of wisecracks and humor in its scripts. Overall I enjoyed this one, but it's definitely not my favorite. Aside from the bloopers (I laughed out loud at the failed Riker Maneuver ) my favorite bit was the "I'm known for my...diction" line. Side topic: until the Trelane/Q episode, I hadn't though all that much of La'an, but between the dancing outfit she wore in that episode and this one...
I’ve been saying for years that 15 episodes is the sweet spot for this new era. The Americans had 15 episodes and the first season of Discovery had 15 episodes. Didn’t Breaking Bad also have 15 episodes as well?
Breaking Bad had 7 (strike-shortened season), 13, 13, 13, and 16 (split over two seasons). I recently finished a rewatch of Justified and each season had 13 episodes, which is a good number I think. The Americans also had 13-episode seasons, except for the last one which was 10.
Okay. Still I think the 10 episode seasons is hurting these shows. There are three jokey episodes for SNWin what is supposed to be a somewhat serious series. It’s too much, in my opinion.
It seems like there are 2 lighthearted episodes per season. S2 actually had 3 if you count Those Old Scientists, which I actually enjoyed very much… but entirely too many distractions so far.
And something really bothered me about this episode. It's a minor nitpick really, not even a part of the episode. Someone misspelled "lens" in the title. I noticed earlier when watching it on my TV, and I paused it to put the laundry into the dryer. Other than that, it was a much better episode than last week. I don't even remember the plot of the last episode.
I didn't like this one. I'm not a big fan of the whole ancient evil takes over someone's mind thing. The premise was a good one, the idea that we (or a sufficiently advanced society anyway) could achieve immortality by changing how matter interacts with the fabric of the universe rather than just trying to manipulate the matter itself, but for me this episode fell flat. We've also not seen the last of it if the final few moments of the episode have anything to say about it. Yeah, this one just didn't do it for me. I found it more unsettling than anything.
Maybe, I think it was just a typo. Maybe whoever entered the title thought lense is the singular of lenses. Everywhere else, even on the Star Trek website the title has the "Lens" spelling.
DenOfGeek pointed out this is very similar to recent Dr Who episode The Well, which had the Doctor, Belinda and a few lucky redshirts escape an ancient evil by the skin of their teeth and the sacrifice of another... only for the epilogue to suggest the monster HAD escaped too.
I haven't seen that one, but I just don't care for the Eldritch horror kind of thing. Episodes of Star Trek that deal with that are generally my least favorite. I never cared much for the Pah Wraiths and that kind of thing in DS9, either, and that's my favorite series. From what I gather online, a lot of people loved this one, so I'm going to be the odd one out on it, but that's fine. I tend to like the goofier, fun ones anyway.
Shit, I meant "The Last Crusade", I realized I got the wrong movie a few minutes after making this post, but couldn't get back to it until now.
same... although I thought last episode was fun and had some clever moments, this one didn't really do anything it set out to do very well. Bummer, as I kinda like Gamble.... this series needs a Wesley.
Something that occurred to me. SNW is setting up why Korby ends up as an android on TOS. He is very opposed to Starfleet or the Federation interfering with his research and methods. He ignores safety measures and pushes forward when he shouldn't.
I thought someone was being creative, using an archaic spelling (which apparently is true, from Old English) but apparently it's just a plain old typo: https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Through_the_Lens_of_Time_(episode)
Trek fans: "THIS IS A CLUE! This means something so much deeper and more complex than just a simple title for an episode. I must explore this! *spends two weeks investigating Trek Lore* Editor: "Ah, fuck." *backspace*
As for the episode, I thought it was kind of boring. Some good visuals, but I didn't really care for the story. I will say that of all the terms I thought I'd hear a character use in Star Trek, "El Cucuy" would've been near the very bottom of the list. One thing that Ortega's drone camera made me realize was how seldom we see cameras used across the series. When the alien structure was revealed after the Enterprise used its tech to expose it and Chapel says, "We're gonna need a bigger away team" I thought, "Shouldn't the ship be seeing that? Why is the ship blind to what's happening on the ground?" A recording from a camera on an away mission was part of the plot in "Identity Crisis" from TNG and security camera-type footage was part of the story in some other episodes (like DS9's "Armageddon Game") but you'd think that cameras with a live feed back to the ship would be standard for most, if not all away missions. I mean, police in the present day are supposed to wear body cameras. It's not a live feed, but it's a visual record.
