Starfleet Academy series

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    And the set will be large.

    Starfleet Academy” will begin shooting in Toronto later this summer, featuring the largest contiguous set ever constructed for a “Star Trek” series, a central academic atrium that will span two stories and include an amphitheater, classrooms, a mess hall, and a idyllic walkway lined with trees.
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    So long as Tilly isn't in it, there's hope. :yes:
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    I'm guessing she is...or at least, she will be a recurring character.
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    Well, I guess that explains the extra large set.

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    Again, there has yet to be a Starfleet live action series that wasn't ultimately about the bestest evaaa!

    Kirk, Picard, Janeway and Archer were all portrayed as among the greatest captains of their respective times.

    DS9 started off with Sisko as kind of a beatdown, PTSD having burnout. But basically with the discovery of the Wormhole and his being the Emissary, he was literally exalted as a religious figure, and he basically saved the Federation.

    Discovery ironically never claimed that Burnham was the bestest evaaa! even though she -- like all the foregoing, was exceptional because Starfleet is exceptional.

    Even Lower Decks, which was supposed to be about the second-tier crewmates on a second-tier ship, draws complaints that Mariner is the bestest evaaa!
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    Burnham started a freaking war, that should have been the end of her. Burnham can survive the vacuum of space multiple times. She's often portrayed as having super human powers like again, beating up dudes twice her size.
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    She was saved by Lorca who was Mirror Universe cashing in on prime-Lorca's reputation.
    Call it a contrivance if you like, but it happened.

    Starfleet has a pill that grows kidneys.
    Holodoc gives shots that fix strokes like an Aspirin to a headache.

    Vulcan martial arts.
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    There's probably a parallel that one could name for each of those to other Starfleet captains and heroes -- how many Prime Directive violations have they collectively committed? Spock got away with falsifying orders and violating the ban on going to Talos IV, a death penalty offense. How many times has Kirk fought off people much bigger or stronger than him and still managed to either hold his own or actually win? The Gorn in Arena, against Khan, against the big ass alien on Rura Penthe...

    Yet somehow it only bothers you with Burnham.
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    Kirk used tools to defeat the Gorn, Burnham wouldn't need tools. Kirk beat Khan because he was more familiar with 3d combat in space, Burham probably would talk about her feelings and defeat him emotionally where they have a cry fest together. Burham would already know where to strike the alien after talking to him for two seconds because she's a genius xenozoologist.
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    noticeable that you left out addressing "Spock got away with falsifying orders and violating the ban on going to Talos IV, a death penalty offense. How many times has Kirk fought off people much bigger or stronger than him and still managed to either hold his own or actually win?"

    Spock got away with it in no small part because of the emotional appeal to the tribunal.

    Although Rura Penthe was because Kirk dick kicked the BAA and didn't even have the decency to shout "that's MY purse!"
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    Show me an example where Burnham beat someone up hand-to-hand who was much bigger than her without using skills (like a nerve pinch) or tools. Don't just make it up.

    I was talking about in Space Seed, where Kirk knocked Khan out despite Khan being many times stronger than him. (Yes, he used a pipe IIRC) The point is he won against someone way stronger.
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    Spock got away with it because the admiral was never on the ship in the first place so I presume Kirk covered for him in his log.
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    Get rid of Tilly and keep Reno
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    What aboutism.
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    Burnham did not start a war. T'Kuvma started a war, and he was going to start a war no matter how Starfleet responded that day. When Georgiou sent an optimistic message of peace, T'Kuvma framed it as a provocation. When Burnham accidentally killed the first Torchbearer, an action that should have met the standard of a "Vulcan Hello," that didn't change T'Kuvma's mind either.

    Starfleet didn't know any of this on the day, but surely they'd have learned the truth eventually, and that would have factored into the decision to pardon Burnham.
    Which is fucking absurd. Khan wasn't familiar with submarine combat? Khan wasn't familiar with aerial combat? He'd never seen or heard of a dogfight before? He wasn't familiar with conflicts where tunnel systems or paratroopers or the concept of the high ground made battlefields three dimensional? Ridiculous. Preposterous.
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    exactly...
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    The fact that the admiral wasn't actually on the ship in the first place did not change the fact that Spock forged orders, lied to the crew, took command that he was not entitled to take AND went to a planet that was forbidden under the threat of the death penalty.
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    Whataboutism is a tactic designed to evade an argument by saying "look over there!"

    I am conceding the argument that in general Burnham does ridiculous, improbable things, punches above her weight class and is lauded as superheroic. (Although I would dispute that she has done some of the specific things that you have accused her of doing, and would point out that at least some of them are just in your head as opposed to based on things that she actually did on screen.)

    I am also pointing out that is not unique. Every Star Trek live action show features stars that do ridiculous, improbable things, punch above their weight class and get lauded as the bestest eveaa.

    Why are you only troubled when it's Burnham who gets treated that way? Did she touch you in the naughty-no-no zone?
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    Is the sets expansive size so that they can squeeze Tilly in?
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    Now, as someone who has abandoned Disco like I'm Steve Dahl in disguise, that still reads like someone who collects unresolved issues with females as a hobby.
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    Is there an echo in here?
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    he's either too young or just plain forgot the Picard maneuver of meeting an unstoppable force of nature, reasoning with it to stop, so it does.
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    it's a big set :shrug:
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    Face is late to the party:
    http://wordforge.net/index.php?posts/3538069/
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