The Omnibus P01135809 Criminal Investigation Thread

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    Judge McAfee denies Trump's RICO case defense citing the 1st Amendment.

    https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24531545-order-on-first-amendment

    After interpreting the indictment’s language liberally in favor of the State as required at this pretrial stage, the Court finds that the Defendants’ expressions and speech are alleged to have been made in furtherance of criminal activity and constitute false statements knowingly and willfully made in matters within a government agency’s jurisdiction which threaten to deceive and harm the government
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    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...uments-records-act_n_660efb56e4b09f580bc71ef0

    She might still try to undercut the prosecution, but looks like Cannon realised she might get fired (:banana:) over her fucking around with jury instructions and decided to play nice for the 11th Circuit.
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  6. Order2Chaos

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    Needs more info. There wasn’t a real danger of her actually dismissing the charges at this point, but if her jury instructions proposal holds up she won’t need to.
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    :lol: I'm fairly sure Roman and Constantine rats had the same respective take.
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    That Guy Who Backed Trump’s Bond? He May Not Have the Money | The New Republic

    New York Attorney General Letitia James has some questions about Donald Trump’s $175 million bond insurer—mainly, if it can even guarantee the full amount if push comes to shove.

    In a court filing on Thursday, Knight Speciality Insurance Company revealed that its liquid assets don’t meet the needs of Trump’s already minimized bond. According to a financial assessment, the company, owned by billionaire Don Hankey, has just $138 million in “surplus.” Knight would therefore need to spend 127 percent of its reserves in order to cover Trump’s bond—far more than the 10 percent of a state-regulated suretor’s surplus that’s allowed by New York law.

    Lawyers for the attorney general’s office also noted that the insurance company was trying to operate “without a certificate of qualification” in the state.

    But that was, apparently, the plan all along, according to Knight’s president, Amit Shah.

    “Knight Specialty Insurance Company is not a New York domestic insurer, and New York surplus lines insurance laws do not regulate the solvency of non-New York excess lines insurers,” Shah told CBS.

    Shah also claimed that his company had more than $1 billion in equity, despite financial statements—which were only obtained after New York court clerks rejected the company’s original bond posting and ordered it to refile—indicating the firm only held $26 million in “cash and bank deposits,” with $483 million in stocks and bonds.

    James’s office has given Trump and his new financial bedfellows 10 days to “justify the surety.”

    “At this venture, with so much at stake, to make these kinds of mistakes, it’s almost unthinkable. And it amps it up with the missing financial statement. That adds all the drama,” an attorney for Michael Cohen, Trump’s former fixer, told The Daily Beast.
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    This is why I like her. Trump had to find a friend, and then say his friend had the money, and she is all like show me. She did not just believe it like other prosecutors would have, she wants to see it and make sure it is there because she is going to take that guys' money when Trump does not pay. If he does not haver the money to show then she is going to take Trump's shit and make sure the money is there.

    I know there are a lot of white men and women that could have done this, but oh man it is awesome it is a black woman. That has got to drive little hands trump nuts because he likes his black women serving him, not taking his babies. He does not even call his children his babies. That is his money making property that he loves so dearly, and in his mind it is not NY state taking his babies, it is the black lady that is more powerful than him.


    Nothing has got to hurt a rick, elderly, racist, white guy more than a black woman getting over on them. Jack has to scare him, but Latisha and Fanni have got to piss him off to no end.
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  12. Demiurge

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    What's more, Knight Specialty Insurance could be on the hook for the surety even if the bond is rejected... NY is fucking COLD about this stuff.

    They filled updated information with the court yesterday.

    Trump's claim of raising $50 million at his fundraiser is also considered questionable, considering there's no independent verification and Trump's a known fraudster.
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    When Joe Biden makes various claims do you follow up with, "Biden's a known fraudster"?
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    I'm pretty sure that, like most normal people, @Demiurge only follows statements with "but then, he's a known fraudster" when the subject of the sentence is, in fact, a known fraudster.

    If the Republican party's greater tendency toward criminality hurts your feelings, you should take it up with them, not blame the people who notice it and point it out.
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    FF is exactly the kind of dupe the Republican Party loves.

    They are very good at picking out a front runner decades before that person ever positions themselves. They start attacking that presumed front runner immediately, that way years (even decades) later they can say “remember when…”. They did it with Hillary, they did it with Biden, they’re currently doing it with AOC.
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  16. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    No, but then Biden has never been found guilty of fraud in court. Moron. LOL.
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    Joe Biden is in fact a known fraudster.
    https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/doc...e-copy-that-joe-bidens-long-record-plagiarism
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  18. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    And you claim not to have voted for Trump, but are in here carrying water for him every single day.

    But don't worry, unlike what Trump did, you won't have to go to court and pay nearly half a billion dollars for lying, because while all fraud includes lying, not all lying is fraud.

    It's almost like committing fraud by lying about your net worth MIGHT make people not believe you when you make claims about how much money you just took in.

    I know, I know, thoughts are hard. LOL.
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    Oh no, someone should expel him from university!
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    FF "doesn't support Trump" but he does support RFK, Jr. Which makes this raise the question of what the real difference is. :chris:

    Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that he would appoint a special counsel to investigate whether Donald Trump’s supporters were subject to politically motivated prosecutions after Jan. 6, 2021.

    In a statement Friday seeking to clarify his position on the Capitol attack, Kennedy questioned whether the riot qualified as an “insurrection”; echoed Trump’s claims that the prosecution of its participants was politically motivated; and said he was “disturbed by the weaponization of government” against the former president.

    “Like many reasonable (sic) Americans, I am concerned about the possibility that political objectives motivated the vigor of the prosecution of the J6 defendants, their long sentences, and their harsh treatment,” the independent candidate said in the nearly 500-word statement. He wrote that the prosecutions fit “a disturbing pattern of the weaponization of government agencies.”

    The special counsel would be “an individual respected by all sides,” he wrote, vowing to “right any wrongs that we discover.”

    The pledge came a day after Kennedy sent out two fundraising emails claiming rioters who had been charged with crimes related to the breach of the Capitol were “activists sitting in a Washington DC jail cell stripped of their Constitutional liberties.” The emails compared them to Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks, and Edward Snowden, the source of the largest leak of NSA documents to journalists. Neither was involved in the Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

    After media reports about his fundraising emails on Thursday, the campaign said that Kennedy did not write the emails himself, and the person who did has been fired.

    “That statement was an error that does not reflect Mr. Kennedy’s views. It was inserted by a new marketing contractor and slipped through the normal approval process. The campaign has terminated its contract with this vendor. Anybody who violated the law on Jan. 6 should be subject to appropriate criminal and/or civil penalties,” campaign spokesperson Stefanie Spear said in a statement on Thursday about the fundraising email.


    There is also a question of whether someone who is so incompetent that they don't bother to read what is being said in his name if they're competent to be president. :chris:
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    It would be appropriate if we were talking about plagiarism to bring up Biden's history of plagiarism. But he doesn't have a corresponding history of inflating financial numbers or figures, let alone have more than one settlement or verdict in the millions that he committed fraud. So get that whataboutism TF out of here.
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    Oh, and for those without a score card, the hush money trial is for 34 of the 91 felonies, each with a maximum sentence of 4 years in prison.
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  24. Nova

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    About the lunatic...I mean RFKJ

    RFK Jr. New York campaign official says her ‘No. 1 priority’ is preventing a Biden victory | CNN Politics
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    Found this in the torture thread that just got bumped. Seems relevant. Sarkozy has since done six months under house arrest though, not sure if that counts as bucking the trend.

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    I assume Elwood made this comment pre-Trump, and that it was in the context of seeing the inside of a jail cell for condoning torture at the hands of an international court. That's a different scenario from a head of state being found guilty of violating the state's own laws, which I'm guessing has happened more frequently, albeit still rare.

    No one would have believed a president would have been involved in the level of criminality that Trump is accused of before it happened. And while the sentiment he expressed may still prove true for Trump or any future president, I would like to think that the principle that no one is above the law will win the day.

    That said, there are various factors that may mean that Trump won't see the inside of a jail cell even assuming he's convicted in all the cases against him:

    1. The sentencing judges likely will give him a lighter sentence than he would deserve, either explicitly or implicitly factoring in his age, his station, the effect on the country if Trump were literally behind bars.
    2. Trump will appeal, and there's a good chance that the current Supreme Court with a 6 conservative justice majority and three Trump appointees will find some BS reason to either overturn his convictions or lessen his sentences
    3, There is the possibility that Trump wins and self-pardons or even that Biden commutes any federal sentence, and the state governors do something similar.
    4. Through the process of dragging things out, Trump may simply die before he has to serve any time.
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    Happy 1st Trump Criminal Trial Day to all those who celebrate!
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    I do! And a merry Tax Day to you all!
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