Trump's $110 billion arms deal with Saudi Arabia

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  1. Zor Prime

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    https://www.google.com/amp/www.cbsn...igns-110-billion-arms-deal-with-saudi-arabia/

    Didn't see this reported in any other threads.

    Thoughts? Good idea? Bad idea?

    I wonder what his base of supporters think about this.

    Iran won't like this at all. Neither will our Libertarians and Isolationists.

    Big oil will be creaming their pants.

    Supposedly this arms deal is meant to combat ISIS but who really believes the Sauds have any interest in that?

    ISIS is their best weapon against Iran. And their continued existence keeps our military industrial complex going strong. What's the motive to get rid of them?

    They are our justification for being involved in Middle Eastern affairs.
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  2. Dan Leach

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    The global arms trade, one of the most truly evil things humanity does.
    Selling arms is bad enough, selling arms to countries like Saudi Arabia is truly fucked up
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  3. Dinner

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    Good. Money is money and Obama was wrong to with hold regular sales like this over Yemen. It made the US look like an unreliable supplier. Frankly, we should be selling to anyone who wants to buy who is not an enemy. Once they have US equipment they tend to stick with it for decades so that makes them a long term export market for US industry.

    The Saudis have been requesting to this for three or four years but Obama dragged his feet. That shouldn't have happened.
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  4. Dinner

    Dinner 2012 & 2014 Master Prognosticator

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    How very simple minded.
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  5. Dinner

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    Most of them will be used in Yemen but, yes, the Saudis pass a fair amount to rebel groups in Syria some of which eventually ends up with ISIS. Not a lot though.
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    So why not legalize crack, meth, and child porn?
    Oh, there are limits?
    So things are more complex than simplistic bumper sticker jargon?

    Indeed.
    Apology preemptively accepted.
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  7. Dinner

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    It is a legitimate business and no apologies are needed. Nations have a right to self defense even if you do not like it.
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  8. Aurora

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    Ladies and gentlemen, this might be the largest sum of protection money ever paid. Because, I mean... the Saudis already have the finest military hardware there is. It's highly questionable if they have the manpower to actually use it all or if it's just rotting in the sand. This new batch probably won't even be unpacked in SA. It will either join the rest of the stuff in the sand or go straight to every extremist group that screams 'we do NOT like Iran!!!!'.

    Don't doubt for a second that this deal is to buy Trump's continued protection. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, jobs. All of 450. In Saudi Arabia, building Blackhawks :lol:

    I wonder if the Israelis are too happy about this. Sooner or later, those shiny guns will be used against them.
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    selling arms to Saudi Arabia can't be that big a money maker - don't they have stores that sell box cutters there?

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    The Saudis are actually pissing through most of their stockpiles in Yemen and with deliveries to rebels in Syria. Yes, they need more and they are willing to pay in cold hard cash. So it is win-win as far as US workers are concerned. If we did not sell it to them then they would just buy from someone else.
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  12. Ten Lubak

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    You do know that one of the results of this arms deal will be creating more refugees from war that will want to come live in the West, right?
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  13. Dinner

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    Exept, no, the west can just say no. Hell, most of the "Syrians" aren't even from Syria. The EU is foolishly allowing every turd from the third world in and that is their bad policy. No papers? No proof you are a Syrian? No problem! You are an African or a Bangladeshi? We will wink and nod and pretend you are a "Syrian" if you say so.

    What a crock.
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  14. K.

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    While this kind of thing makes me want to puke, I don't see what would be gained by doing one deal less. If we don't want to sell weapons, make a law against it. 'Legal but let's not be too good at it' isn't a policy as much as a bad conscience.
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    The Grand Wizard hasn't thought that far ahead. :lol:
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  16. 14thDoctor

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    Muslim refugees: Let them die!

    The barbaric Muslim country responsible for 9/11: Let's sell them billions in weapons!

    Both you and Trump are hypocritical pieces of shit. :brood:
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  18. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor no matter the cost

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    Related: I have no beef against individual Muslims, or Muslims in general, or most Muslim countries. Except Saudi Arabia. The more you learn about Saudi Arabia, the more horrifying it gets. Even most of the Muslims I know hate Saudi Arabia. I'd totally be cool with any action taken against Saudi Arabia, up to and including nuking the entire country from orbit.

    But they've got money, so Trump and Dinner will ignore their crimes and focus their hate on the poor Muslims instead. :brood:
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  19. Dinner

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    No one said let them die, liar. I have repeatedly said we can give humanitarian aid in their region of origin. That is the best way to deal with this but it requires nations of the region to step up and intigrate the legitimate refugees. Something many of them have simply refused to do. Importing large quantities of cultural aliens who are antithetical to western norms is not a solution.

    That you have to lie shows how bankrupt your position is.
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  20. Dinner

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    Hell, 14D is such a lying shit stain he claims people will die. Why is it only young men who come? Why is it all the others remain behind? It is because they know their families are safe even though there is little economic opportunity.

    In short, you are nothing but a liar, and you should be completely ignored as the liar you are.
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  21. Steal Your Face

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    Nope, not one bit.
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  22. 14thDoctor

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    Kill yourself. :)
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  23. Aurora

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    it's an incredible shithole, isn't it. it's only slightly behind north korea in terms of 'bad'. and most people don't know a thing about it.
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    Why should we be helping the hijacker nation?
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    What is the moral difference between Saudi Arabia and ISIS?
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  26. Steal Your Face

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    Nothing.
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  27. 14thDoctor

    14thDoctor no matter the cost

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    No, ISIS is better than Saudi Arabia. ISIS is at least open with what they're all about, and they fight for themselves instead of paying others to do it for them. :async:
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  28. Dinner

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    Because there is hope to steer their government in another direction? Certainly their people remain debased animals but what alternative course do you offer?
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  29. Steal Your Face

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    True.
  30. Steal Your Face

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    Nothing is going to change over there, we both know this, screw em'.
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