Can the mods confirm whether or not teh Baba Returns is the original Baba?

Yes, but so is the call to treat baba's recent torrent as spam, or indeed to set up basic spam filters in the first place. You can't avoid that.

No, sorry. Baba's spamming is basic and overt. It's common sense. Upteen threads about which celebrity Oldfella is having an affair with is of no value and cannot prompt discussion. Gturner's threads can. They aren't the same.

Oh, and I never asked for Baba's posts to be boxed either.

The torrent wasn't The Baba's. Go to page 2 of the Red Room and look at the dates on them. Only a couple of them even shared the same start day. They'd been spread out over a week.

But then over a ten minute span @Kilometres O'Brien left a comment in every one of them. Then he came here and said

So he created the first disaster and suggested the second, leaving the board with only four real threads on the main page, turning the circle jerk into a cluster fuck.

Just like complaints about baba. It's all personal opinion, there is no objective definition for any of this.

No, but you clearly wanted something done about baba. Why start this thread otherwise? You can't demand that something be done about spammers, and also demand that only you hold the determination of what constitutes spam.

I think the new Baba is a dual, and I think allowing a dual to spam is a piss take.

I never told you to box any threads or punish him if it is the real Baba. That was your choice alone.

This.

I stated my reason for merging the gtard threads along with nuBaba's.

I also stated that I accidentally merged a thread I didn't intend to (I was on my phone, not a computer at the time) but that has since been fixed along with another that gtard requested that I un-merge.

"Your" reasons eh?

So you're confirming that there was no discussion in either the Shelter or over PM on this issue before making your decision?

No, there wasn't.

Well, I don't believe that, because if I did then I'd have to believe you're an idiot and the staff doesn't communicate over key decisions.

Chup is convinced that we engaged in complex machinations behind closed doors, where I controlled everything about the outcome. Paranoia?

Communication took place here, in this thread, completely transparent. Here's an outline:

Chup: can't something be done about Baba?
ShootER: I agree, something should be done.
Anna: I'm good with doing something.
Chad: Maybe box him and gturner for good measure.
gul: I don't favor doing anything, but defer to shootER and Anna.

See that, there was a discussion, a decision, and all in a public forum with input from interested members. Not all will like the decision, but it's not hard to follow how it was made. Why would there be another, secret discussion? What more could possibly be said?

I wouldn't consider it a "key decision". It was dealing with spammy threads which shouldn't require a committee meeting.

If it were posters other than gtard and nuBaba it probably wouldn't have happened at all, but they're both spammers, little different than Castle.

Castle wasn't a spammer. He was just someone that gul disliked.

I disagree.

And here you go again, lying about the Castle affair.

First off it's gturner. Your use of gtard clearly shows your bias. You're not making decisions based on what the poster is actually doing but on the fact that you personally don't like the poster.

Second his threads are not spam. He may be an idiot with idiot opinions but the threads are not spam as evidenced by the fact that others were in those threads discussing the topic.

If people don't like him then stop posting in his threads. Those threads will drop off the first page. New and exciting concept I know but it does work.

Wordforge's Red Room should not be about safe spaces for the children like Chad who plays games like bumping all the Baba threads at the same time and then coming into the Help Desk to ask about boxing gturner, who Chad doesn't like, in an attempt to goad you who also don't like gturner into boxing gturner. Looks like it worked too.

There is no lie, because you were quite happy for me to troll the shit out of him and generate the "threat" to the board that you used to ban him with.

His subsequent actions off board don't change that.

Have you not spotted that you are the issue here? You are the mod/owner that many don't trust. Even if you weren't responsible for this latest idiocy, your disgusting comments wishing death on gturner, the mass exodus of posters once your became an owner, the opposition to your reason for banning Castle and your falling out even with so many people, unlike any other mod, must indicate that people don't trust you. You've launched into previous mods and owners for far, far less. Are you willing to entertain these possibilities?

You're trolling is funny Chup, but really not helpful to have people view your "character'.

There is nothing about my post about that was trolling, and that's why I call you pride boy. You can't handle criticism because you think your shit doesn't stink, and in the most insidious way as well given that you try and pass yourself as as sensible and objective.

You can say what you like about me. But I don't pretend to be what I am not. I know exactly what I am. You can see that by my own recognitions of being arrogant and a bit of a git, admissions you could never make independently off the cuff. Plus, must of what I do is playing games. People here have already found that if they want to PM me about something then all that is dropped. Ask Federal Farmer. You aren't the same, because you only care about yourself.

Too bad someone doesn't make a picture that actually says the words as you scroll by it.

Kill yourself.

Stop trying to get on Gul's goodside Faceman. He's never going to make you a mod.

I know.

Yeah, I've only bent over backwards on behalf of yourself a half dozen times. You admit you're playing, then you wonder why people call you on it.

^This is the opinion of a hypocrite.

The fact is that Baba's threads were generating discussion from more members than just me. If it's not a discussion you care for, you are free to walk away from the thread. But instead, you would rather stop that discussion over your irrational concern that Baba is a dual. And now you're acting all self-righteous and indignant after the staff finally listened to your concerns?

Pathetic.

So basically you had input into the boxing decision? It was all ShootER on his own?

Ha ha ha. I didn't even know you had bumped those threads until gturner told us. Get over yourself.

Posting in a thread that is on the front page is not by any stretch of the imagination bumping. Get over yourself and please stop bumping your own thread. Hypocrite.