Still think we shouldn't accept refugees?

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  1. Inútil

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    Yes, yes the refugees are just rodents, vermin, untermensch, etc..

    Go and sit in the corner with Dinner.
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  2. Dinner

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    You seem to have reading comprehension problems because my last two posts were about how the German government admits it has a problem with 92% of the people ordered deported by German courts never actually get deported.

    If you are going to try to be a shit stain at least try to respond on topic.
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    You made some posts in this thread that weren'tpacked full of racial abuse and dehumanising language? I would say I'm impressed, but I do so hate to lie.
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    So anything to avoid admitting you are just full of shit and posting off topic, eh?

    Seriously, you dumb ass, GTURNER had been posting in this thread not me but you just put an off topic post spraying verbal diarrhea about in your ignorance when I hadn't even posted in the thread for days. If you are going to be a cunt at least stop being a lazy cunt.
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    I think you'll find that you have posted in this thread, and quite a lot at that. Unless you're going to claim that you have an alter ago who is responsible for all the racist and dehumanising nonsense posted under your name, but I don't think anyone will buy that.
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    I imagine the dehumanizing nonsense is what's going on in a whole lot of the refugee centers in Europe. Germany has no system in place to protect female refugees from the male refugees. Concerned newpaper writers are having to improvise to try and get the women to safety.
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    Anyways... As Intutil just cannot live without it here is some more migrant news about how well they are intigrating.

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/615976/refugee-crisis-Suhl-Germany-Angela-Merkel-Syria

    A pack of 3rd world migrants beat a four year old German boy so badly he had to be sent to the hospital. What was the toddler's crime which demanded such harsh beatings? The four year old child kicked a soccer ball on a soccer field. The ball was no doubt given to the violent welfare vagrants by some well meaning but stupid charity. You can take the man out of the ghetto but you cannot take the ghetto out of the man. They will teach their barbarism to their offspring too claiming it is "culture".

    Oh, true to form Merkel still has a gag order on police to try to hide the numerous crimes of these animals but I suppose we should be happy that a week or two has gone by without the high profile rape of a German elementary school girl.
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34683056

    Merkel has realized how her big mouth has set off an unending rush of third world welfare seekers, far more than Germany could ever pay for, and she is now trying to restrict how many get in. If she had half a brain she would be sealing the border completely and deporting all these criminal illegal aliens back to the middle east.

    Hell, just passing a law saying none of them can get welfare would virtually stop the welfare migration over night. Simply cutting welfare benefits means the criminal illegals never stay to be parasites in Denmark. This is a lesson Germany and Sweden should learn.
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    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/61...K-3-500-mile-perilous-voyage-Eritrea-Longford

    The poor guy says he is disillusioned. After this illegal alien unlawfully entered the UK he was given a free home and a lifetime of free welfare but he says he wants more and he thought the UK would be better. Naturally, he does not work and has no intentions of ever working.

    Oh, and he is from Africa not Syria but he still gets a free ride then bitches about it not being generous enough.
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    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...-Juncker-preparing-migrant-welfare-curbs.html

    The UK is one of the only sane voice left in the EU these days not only refusing to take illegal aliens, and rightly so, but also demanding that regulation 883 be removed from Britain. 883 requires all migrants, legal or otherwise, to be given welfare the same as actual citizens. Working class people in the UK are livid that their wages are declining and rents are going up largely due to large numbers of migrants surging into the UK.
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    So let me get this straight - in Germany every violent attack that doesn't fit the political narrative is downplayed if not outright denied. Welcome to the US, Germany! And remember, no matter how often this happens, the rape/beating victims are "blowing things out of proportion" and fear mongering. Get used to the new normal, Germany.
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    The government claims it wants to protect the privacy rights of criminals and so refuses to tell the public about crimes and especially not the names of criminals which might sound foreign. They also refuse to release info about crime by race and religion though several leaks have shown the government does indeed have this data yet refuses to release it. The leaks tell you why as certain groups really do commit most of the crime in the country despite being a minority. Can you guess which ones?
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    RE: disillusioned guy.

    It just shows that you can't have open borders and welfare or all of Africa will show up at your house. We've all seen thousands of commercials pleading with us to send aid to starving east Africans. Well frankly, it's perfectly valid to respond with saying, "So move your starving selves to England or Germany!" Well, now we're seeing what that looks like in practice.

    RE: working class people.

    There is only a finite amount of taxpayer revenue that exists, and paying out welfare can't take over the rest of the budget because then defense, police, health care, and all the other government programs would go unfunded. Since the migrants aren't adding any significant additional tax revenue, they're draining away the revenue set aside for welfare benefits for all the citizens. Once welfare is eating up a large percentage of government revenues, it can't grow any further, so if you double the number of welfare cases, each recipient will only get half as much.

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    I would guess that's about 80 billion, or enough to spend 20,000 on each of 4 million people. If the UK took in 4 million migrants (German officials have said they expect 7 million by the time the Syrian mess is over), then that same level of spending would mean only 10,000 per head for 8 million people.
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    7 million as a result of just this year's migration once they get to bring over their entire extended families to sign up for welfare. Just in Germany.

    That Germany and Sweden has not put a complete stop to this practice is unbelievable.
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    As Europe swings hard to the right because of the crisis, I imagine it will start to reinforce a view of welfare recipients as bums and violent criminals. All those Danes, Swedes, and Belgians voted to pay in to a massive social safety net for their families and friends, their parents, retirees, nice old ladies from church, and such. But now they'll be seeing the benefits they paid for going to violent Muslim protesters who want to take over and make all the local women wear hijabs. Very quickly the voters will ask "Why the fuck are we paying them to abuse us? Why are we paying them at all?"

    But there will be push back from the left about how not paying them would be racist, and that push back will probably be quite effective. So the logical response is to quit paying people for not working, whether they're a 100th generation Swede or an Ethiopian right off the boat.

    And videos like this don't help


    Translation:

    “Islam is coming to take over Germany whether you want it or not…not through war but by the fact that Germans don’t reproduce and Muslims have 7-8 children each…but not only that, your daughters will marry bearded Muslims and wear the hijab, their sons will wear a beard! The Muslims will have four wives and 27 children and what does the German man have? One child and maybe a little pet dog! The German has taken advantage of the Muslim for too long, just so he can drive his Mercedes… now Islam is coming and your daughters will wear the hijab! Ha! I can see the look of hate in your eyes!”​
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34612325

    Stealing bikes in Russia to cross into Norway north of the artic circle. If only their desire to work and intigrate was half as much as their determination to steal and break the law.
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    National Review article on the crisis

    Margot Wallström, Sweden’s Social Democratic foreign minister, declared this week that the refugee flow in her country, with its current population of 9.8 million, was enormous: “We cannot maintain a system where perhaps 190,000 people will arrive every year — in the long run, our system will collapse. And that welcome is not going to receive popular support.”

    The 190,000 refugees expected in Sweden this year would be the equivalent of 6.5 million people arriving in the U.S. — the population of Indiana.

    That would be 6.5 million per year, or a 2% annual increase in population (10% in just 5 years) - and all people who probably won't find jobs and will instead make lots and lots of babies, completely transforming Sweden's economy and demographics to look more like Syria.

    Other countries without an extensive welfare state don’t seem to have Sweden’s problem. Reuters reported that Lithuania “is throwing its doors open to refugees fleeing war and hardship in the Middle East, but is finding few takers.” Rimantas Vaitkus, deputy chancellor of the Lithuanian government, told the news agency: “We are prepared to accept refugees immediately, but there are no refugees in Italy or Greece who agreed to resettle in Lithuania. . . . It seems that refugees know about Sweden, Germany, France, the United Kingdom, which either have generous social security or have been actively attracting immigrants.”

    Hrm... Where have we heard that before? It's almost like another commenter in this thread has been saying that till he's blue in the face but nobody will believe him.
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    http://conservativepost.com/sweden-shocked-again-after-woman-raped-to-death-by-somali-immigrant/

    A Somali welfare migrant in Sweden murdered and then raped the corpse of a young Swedish girl in a hotel parking lot. Police arrived on the scene while the animal was still raping the dead body. Oh, and rape cases have been skyrocketing in Sweden, the country already had one of the highest rape rates in Europe with muslim migrants responsible for virtually alk cases, and just like in Germany the government has been trying to hide it by refusing to release statistics and insisting on calling all the migrants "Swedish men" which they clearly are not.
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    I don't think it qualifies as rape if the girl is already murdered. :shrug:

    Don't parents instill anything in kids anymore?

    It's rape then kill. Not kill then rape. :waiting:

    And it only makes logical sense one way. It's not like sitting around going "Is it 'beer then liquor' or 'beer after liquor'"?
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    While I don't agree with Dinner's distasteful descriptions of those heading to Europe, I do think the EU needs to put a stop to this mass influx. Better to support the likes of Turkey, Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq etc. who are sheltering the majority of refugees, rather than trying to accommodate them all in Europe.
    Now, Europe (and the US) has a lot to answer for, since several European nations supported the war in Iraq and have meddled in the internal conflicts in Syria, Libya etc.
    Because of that, and since there is a genuine humanitarian disaster here, we should take in some genuine refugees. No one likes to mention it but David Cameron's solution is by far the best option. The UK won't take part in a forced distribution of refugees as the Germans are trying to enforce across the EU, nor will we allow those queuing up in Calais to enter the country legally. But we will take a total of 20,000 refugees over the next 5 years from camps in Jordan, and the other countries neighbouring Syria. This is so much better than Merkel's retarded policy to give asylum to every Syrian that manages to get into Germany. Cameron's proposal will keep the refugee problem confined in the Middle East. Merkel's policy has caused this massive crisis within the borders of the EU. Good going, Angela. Oh, and how cuntish of Merkel to invite Syrians to Germany but then demand all other EU countries to take their fair share! Not to mention the enormous logistical problems she's caused to the Balkan countries who are trying to manage the influx of refugees who are trying to make their way to the promised land of Germany.
    The Germans are always so sensible, logical and manage their affairs wonderfully, but tend to have bouts of insanity that fucks up Europe every once in a while.
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    http://www.prisonplanet.com/germany...gang-rape-victim-in-magdeburg-this-month.html

    19 year old girl becomes the fourth victim of gang rape by the migrants this month in Magdeburg. We are only five days into the month.

    The 19 year old was walking home early in the morning when the Muslim savages grabbed her from behind, dragged her into an alleyway, where she was then gang raped by a large number of muslim animals.
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    That ^ information seems to be incorrect.
    She was sexually harassed, assaulted and badly injured. She was not raped (thank god, for her) and it was "only" one assailant (though there were others present). http://www.mdr.de/nachrichten/haftb...iff-magdeburg100_zc-e9a9d57e_zs-6c4417e7.html
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    The article says gang rape. Are you sure you are not getting confused by one of the many other sexual assaults in Magdeburg?

    It also said three of the gang rapists were caught at the scene while two other Arab suspects are still at large.
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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34732415

    Wow.

    Now I shall allow the chicken little and the rest to get to back to telling us how the sky is falling.
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    I had a moment of weakness and peaked at his post. The 0.2% increase would be because there are more people which means more consumption. That said, if the new guys are all sucking up welfare, and the vast majority of them are, then that is still a net drain on resources as they are not net contributing via work. Those countries need more tax payers not more tax takers.

    That, of course, is ignoring the increases in crime, lack of integration because they do not want to integrate, the poor actually from the country losing resources because the welfare migrants took it all, and all the other problems previously mentioned.
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    Good grief, you can't even get ignoring someone right. You really are hopeless.

    Anyway, the real point - and I'm sure that everyone else understood, but just in case you have another 'moment of weakness' - is that you have spent this entire 990 post thread wetting your pants on our behalf about a 0.4% increase in the EU population. That's one migrant for every 250 Europeans.
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    I wanted to give you another chance since we had such a heart warming and extended email exchange today. :P

    The problem is they are localized at mostly just three countries (those with lots of welfare) where they will quickly over load the system. No, the other countries will not take the welfare migrants and none of them would stay in places like Slovakia anyway.

    Cutting them off from welfare works and makes them decide not to stay as does outlawing family reunitals. Denmark is proof of that. Cut off the welfare and they will not come so that is how you stop the welfare migration.
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