Stanford gets bitch slapped for attempting to remove 'American' from it's computer infrastructure

I thought it was "Greco" that meant Greek? Like the painter...

So @Order2Chaos what is actually dumb about that? Use your words. This is not twitter.

Yeah American is an ambiguous term, considering there are like a billion Americans spanning two very large continents.

Not all nations in Europe refer to Europe in their official title, and yet we call dozens of nations European. Similarly, not all nations in Asia refer to Asia in their official title, and yet we call dozens of nations Asian. Continuing on, not all nations in Africa refer to Africa in their official title, and yet we call dozens of nations them African.

There are 35 countries in North and South America, totalling over a billion people. Why does only one country within that group get to be called American?

Any county in that group can be called American if they so choose.

Only one of them did so choose - and are now told they can't be called what they want to be called. And yes, the term American is overwhelmingly popular and has been used to describe citizens of the USA for over 200 years by both our population and external populations calling us that. The term was originally applied to members of the 13 colonies by the British.

And curious, what other nation's inhabitants are told they can't use the place name as their descriptor? Just the US? Pretty sure I'm not a United Statesian - though that is the name most latinos call the citizens of the US. Should I call Bolivians the Plurinational Statesians? I could call people Republicans, but would that be members of the political party, Brazilians, Guyanians, Ecuadorians, Peruvians, Chileans, on and on and on, there's about 50 republics as official state names. Just silly.

Oh, right, I'm a 'Citizen of the United States.' Only other nations get to use their place names for their inhabitants. Just too bad I'm part of a rich nation, we have less rights than the others. Can't offend a member of the United Mexican States. After all, liberals tell me they have the right to determine what I can call myself.

Talk about whiny bitches.

Feel free, this was already settled in this case, and of course it's you guys whining that you didn't get to impose your language on the rest of us.

But I have yet to meet a far lefty who wasn't a violent hypocrite. We all know if this was a marginalized group you'd be screaming that they should be allowed to call themselves whatever they wanted. LOL.

It seems to be mostly people with very small dicks that want to determine how other people address themselves, likely due to grotesque inferiority complexes.

Spanish for greek is 'griego' and the majority of scholars believe that to be origin of the term gringo.

It's slang in English for something that is unintelligible as well, but that usage is no longer common, ie 'that's Greek to me.'

So Hispanics are saying you speak gibberish if they call you a Gringo, which scholars have pointed out means 'greek speaker.'

It's commonly considered a slur, and is often used to cast aspersions on Latinos themselves who aren't considered sufficiently culturally latino, such as a US born person of latino descent that has too many American traits or doesn't speak Spanish.

Who the heck is "you guys" in this context you whinging yank?

Well, let's see, your original quote was calling any American that wanted to use that term a snowflake for 'daring to have their language questioned.' Of course, that's bullshit, it wasn't a discussion of whether or not to change the name American, it was a guideline to not use it as a 'harmful' term at a major US university. I would tease you about Aborigines almost certainly not wanting to have their continent called Australia, a latin term imposed on them in the 19th century, but a) I don't have a small dick and b) it's even harder to find them than Native Americans.

So yeah, you guys. You are clearly willing to denigrate anyone that agrees with the assertion that we should be able to use our own language to describe ourselves.

And hey man, keep posting. I can drag out your hypocrisy as long as you'd like.

Because we both know that a) you use the term American to refer to the United States and b) you'd be attacking anyone who used different language than that which people wanted to describe themselves if it was almost any other group.

Except, of course, Americans.

so "Greco" would be an archaic spelling/informal form? Google translate identifies both versions without commentary, and like I said... this fuggin' guy.




that does make a lot more sense than some of the other supposed origins of 'gringo', although it's interesting that the "greek to me" idiom bridges both Spanish and English.

They said the exclusive use of the term “American “ implies we believe we are the most important nation in the Americas. Well. Why are we the ones with the border problem? Why are all the other “ Ameticans” walking into El Paso?

Stanford’s list is inefficient and factually inaccurate in many places. Why say something in five words when you can use one?

Speech policing is almost always problematic and fails to consult the individuals who are supposedly being oppressed. I’ve learned than Latinx is never used by actual Spanish speakers so I make sure never to say it now.

This supposed PC crap is just a sales pitch from idiots. It is not liberals doing it, it is always some sort of HR or used car salesman type trying to entice people into a product with words rather than value.

It really shows what a person is all about when they get all hung up on the attempt pretending it is the most invasive attack on their free speech ever when it is just some stupidvisor trying to pretend to carte about customers.

Of course it happens with the performative dems, but those are not actually liberal leftists as much as they are playing one in congress or the administration of colleges. Message to rightforge the people running stanford are just as interested in tax breaks for the wealthy as your party is so there is no chance they will do anything substantial.

Holy heck that's a lot of words about how not worked up over this you are.

Btw if you actually want to shift discussion to the tangential discussion of location names in Australia I'd be happy to, should we do it here or another thread? There have been lots of interesting movements in the last few years here, although nothing as cool as the rapid shift in New Zealand with a lot of its population now using Aotearoa. There's also a lot to dig into regarding the difficulties that arise when the naming for geographical bodies (such as Australia) are reused for the political bodies, and how names preferred for one may actually be inappropriate when used for the other.

Yeah, let's not be setting a precedent for splooging out walls of text to convey simple ideas.

TBF, the rest of us get pretty annoyed by being presumed as Americans in the same way that the Irish or Scots get when lumped in as British.

"Turtle Island" FTW!

Ah yes, the fact I can put a couple of sentences together somehow means that my response is problematic. GTFO with that bullshit. You have seen my other posts, right? LOL.

Couldn't care less, you are free to call yourselves whatever you like.

And I won't call you a whingeing snowflake if you do.

Because I'm not an insecure asshole that has to mock others if it doesn't meet my conception of who they should be.

Must be a generational or regional thing then. I can't remember ever identifying as an American (that's not to say I didn't when I was younger, I just can't remember). As far back as I recall, I've always recognized that I live in California, and therefore in the US and in North America, but have identified as a Californian, even abroad. It was always pretty obvious that American is an ambiguous term at best.

I can think of a quite a few other US states where I would put good money that its residents identify by their state rather than as "American."

As an Oregonian*, I'm obligated to remind you to stay in California

*originally from California

Sorry, but there is no worse crime in Oregon than emigrating from California. You must suffer daily.

Source: I have several relatives who fled to Oregon for job opportunities in the pear, wine, and Shakespeare Festival industries.

'Tis true, I do suffer immensely... by virtue of having been adopted as an Oregonian from living here for 34 years.

How's your family enjoying the Rogue Valley? That place really feels like home for me, even though I've been up in P-Town most my life.