Affordable Care Act Timeline, or...

First Chuck Schumer, now Tom Harkin has come out about how convoluted Obamacare is. It just gets better and better.
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/225812-harkin-dems-better-off-without-obamacare

Of course it's convoluted. The Heritage Foundation drew it up that way. Oh and I thought you'd have enough of this place.

And yet 12 million more Americans have health insurance than did this time last year.

@Federal Farmer will now link to any single piece of legislation passed in the past century that isn't convoluted.

Hermitage Foundation? Don't you mean Johnathan Gruber and the Democrats?

The Heritage Foundation. Here we go again...

That's right garamet, shrug it off like you always do because you wish to remain willfully ignorant and of course. You usual,

She's shrugging it off because we've already explained in excruciating detail that the PPACA was based on the work of a libertarian think tank, the Heritage Foundation (not Hermitage), and was quite popular with conservative Republicans, right up until the time it was proposed by a moderate Democrat.

Shrug off your ignorance RE: The Heritage Foundation? On the contrary; I'm calling you on it. Again.

@Federal Farmer will now do a point-by-point comparison of this:


Assuring Affordable Health Care for All Americans

with the PPACA and show how they differ.

I'll get him started.

Difference: Newt Gingrich supported one, not the other.

Where's @Federal Farmer?

There has been a nice collection of smilies in this thread.

Did anyone come up with a *crickets* smiley?

Think we've got one somewhere...ah, here it is:

He lied. Premiums didn't drop, and in 36 states they're going up even higher this year.

How many times do you have repeat this before it magically becomes true?

It's already true, so the number of times I repeat it is irrelevant. The managing editor of Think Progress bragged "Obamacare premiums DECREASED in at least 14 states in 2015."

I'll leave you to your Hillary love.



Yeah, Bill should totally have those people jailed or deported.

How many places did you see insurance premiums go down from year to year before the ACA?

A blast from the past:


The collapse of ObamaCare

Meanwhile, in the world outside the Echo Chamber:

Arkansas, Kentucky Report Sharpest Drops in Uninsured Rate

A large percentage of people's premiums dropped and an even larger had their effective out of pocket costs went way down with the subsidies. You are just factually wrong.

Also, yearly price increases are now at their lowest rate in half a century. Fact.

gturner don't need no stinkin' facts.

Yup. On top of health care spending increases being at the lowest level in a very long time, total health care spending as a percentage of GDP was flat over the last year. That's a big fucking deal that means the growth of health care costs is actually sustainable now. That isn't to say we shouldn't try to reduce or contain those costs even more, but it means that we no longer face a crisis of health care costs. Again, that's a big fucking deal.

Ask @gturner how the PPACA has affected him personally. Watch him dance.

So I wondered how garamet would react to Gruber's admission bragging about having deliberately played the American people for suckers. And she reacted exactly as I thought she would.

You're back!

You guys didn't overlap.

I was wondering what you'd say about Garamet's response to the irrelevant Gruber stuff. Your post is just as I expected.

"Irrelevant"? If I said I think you can do better than that, I'd be lying.

Has it caused any of the 12 million Americans who now have health insurance to lose that health insurance? No? Then