Deadpool & Wolverine

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  1. We Are Borg

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    Me too. In fact I know a ton of people that work on a certain sci-fi series that is mostly filmed in T.O.

    Also agree that I'm not hearing much about any of this bullshit in the industry except for the CBC... which my friends have said is an utter DEI shit show.
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  2. Ten Lubak

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    Saw it. It was awesome. Laugh out loud awesome

    Baby knife!
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  3. Crosis36

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    Holy shit, where do you get your talking points, Stormfront?

    A cursory look at box office would demonstrate that race, gender, etc have, mmmm, fuck-all to do with ticket sales.

    By the way, Deadpool is an acknowledged pansexual who spends the whole film lusting after Thor.
    So make of that what you will.
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  4. Ten Lubak

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    He wasn’t lusting after Thor, he wanted to know why the fuck Thor was crying after he saw the video of him and Thor which was random as hell

    I really hope that actually turns into something
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  5. Diacanu

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    It just crossed a billion.
    Marvel's back on track.
    (And no, not cuz white guys, you fuckin' goons)
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  6. Crosis36

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    That was pretty obviously a romantically- tinged moment. Especially when his actual comic history is taken into account.
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  7. Ten Lubak

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    Well it wasn’t but I’ll let you be wrong here and enjoy those weird fanfic feelings the scene obviously gave you :lol:
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  8. Crosis36

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    No offense, but I think I'm more on target than you.
    Quote from "Cable and Deadpool #11"
    "Naked Avengers? Whoa... this guy's a lost but he's my kind of loser...Check out Thor's Mjolnir!"
    It's pretty clearly not a coincidence, I dont think.
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  9. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Movie Deadpool clearly has romantic/sexual feelings for Colossus, and Vanessa even teased him about them in DP2.

    I didn't pick up the notion that Movie Deadpool had romantic/sexual feelings for Thor or had anything but curiosity about why Thor was cradling him in what seemed to be a death scene for Deadpool. The actions of Mr. Paradox and crew implied that they screwed up by allowing Deadpool to see that, which is more consistent with them wrongly giving foreknowledge of his fate than them showing a romantic moment.

    But to each their own.

    Maybe we will find out in Deadpool 4, which would seem inevitable since this one will make a gajillion.
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    Would they be willing to reboot the odd couple TV series with wolverine and deadpool?

    Would that be too much of a good thing, or is this something there can't be too much of a good thing of?
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    Did you notice how the two "pale and male" characters couldn't defeat the female antagonist without the assistance of two women, a black guy, and an "ethnic" character with a silly accent? How emasculating. :bergman:

    And how the Deadpool corps was only neutralized by the power of friendship and non-toxic masculinity? :bergman:
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  12. Uncle Albert

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    Nobody said you couldn't have all that. You just have to do it in a movie that DOESN'T suck, and ISN'T another cookie cutter iteration of "men bad, hwite men worse, hurr hurr praise us".
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  13. Ten Lubak

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    Yeah he's definitely got a hard on for Colussus :lol:
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  14. Crosis36

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    Show me a movie that does that.
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  15. Diacanu

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    "Mississippi Burning" and "12 Years A Slave". :cry:
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    I just think it's funny that the only people making it about race are the ones complaining about making it about race.
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  18. Crosis36

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    LOL.
    I'm a writer and a literature professor. Nerd is part of the job.
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  19. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    I'm sure that one can come up with movies and TV shows where if one twists things just enough a person could claim that the message is "men bad, white men worse, hurr hurr praise us."

    The typical offenders seem to be Barbie, Captain Marvel/the Marvels, She-Hulk, the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy, Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny.

    The first issue is that taking a closer look at those movies/shows would show that is not the message a reasonable person should take from them at all.

    The second issue is that even if we spotted those shows as examples of this "trend," they are still dwarfed by the movies and TV shows where men, and white men, are still the heroes and the center of attention.
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    You concede the point, give valid examples, then pull the rug out by presuming to define reasonability on a subjective topic. :jayzus:
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  21. Diacanu

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    Foxy Brown literally cuts a guy's dick off, and puts it in a jar.
    Coffy shoots a guy in the dick with a shotgun.
    Pam Grier makes Brie Larson look like Tinkerbelle.
    Where are the Hate-tube videos for that shit?
    Grandfather clause?
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  22. Steal Your Face

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    For the millionth time,*Pulls out megaphone* GOOD WRITING!, GOOD STORY!, GOOD CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT!
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  23. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    It could only be considered "conceding the point" in Bizarro World to say that it requires twisting matters to claim that they have the message that you say they do, or that when looked at closely they do not.
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  24. Steal Your Face

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    Just because you don't see it, doesn't meant it doesn't exist.
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  25. Diacanu

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    Maybe the other 999,999 times didn't take because you're lying.
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    Except for the fact that I'm not lying, you're just an idiot.
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  27. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Let's take me out of the equation.

    Defend the position that the message of any of the movies/shows I listed (or for that matter) is that most men are bad, most white men are worse and someone else (presumably women, but maybe people of color) should be praised.

    Spoiler alert:

    Whichever property you pick will probably have:

    Examples of heroic/good men (white or non) - See Nick Fury, Coulson, Wong, Hulk, Daredevil, Luke, Han, Finn, Poe, Indiana Jones
    Examples of heroic/good women - See She-Hulk and her friends, Carol, Monica, Kamala, Rey, Rose, Holdo and Leia
    Examples of bad/flawed/antagonistic men (white or non) See Yon-Rogg, the men's rights guy, Snoke, Palpatine, the Nazi villain
    Examples of bad/flawed/antagonistic women See the main villain in CM2, the Stormtrooper captain,

    And then there are characters that have arcs and go from bad to good or good to bad over the course of the movie/show/series, or who don't fit neatly into one of these categories. I would people like Kylo Ren, Wombat, the characters in Barbie as mostly in this sort of in between realm.

    Which is why it would be dumb to take away the message from any given one of them, or them collectively, "men bad, white men worse, hurr hurr, praise us."
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  28. Diacanu

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    Unless you're a grifter making money off ad revenue from pissing off teenage boys.
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  29. DEI Hire

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    Saw it, liked it. @Ten Lubak is right about the Thor thing.
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  30. Steal Your Face

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    Look no further than The Acolyte.
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