John likes little boys.

This thread is now on Twitter.

http://www.wordforge.net/index.php?threads/spam-tweet-notice.105184/#post-2665605

I think I'm pretty firmly on record as supporting a maximum laissez-faire attitude towards moderation; I've often argued that even major assholery should be allowed to stand rather than even start the discussion on what should or shouldn't be allowed.

So for the record, I'd like to say that if it were up to me, Faceman would be banned for this for not too short a while.

Your mom is on Twitter.

Also, please stop PMing me begging for sex and then to shit on your face afterward. If it was just once or twice a day I could ignore it, but every 20 minutes is somewhat excessive. I've already made it clear I'm not interested.

It sounds like you are very confused. Everything goes but this.

Sorry, I know we're not supposed to discuss the content of PMs openly without the author's permission, but your inbox is full, so I had to contact you a different way.

Mods, please redact @Faceman's name from this thread so that no one knows that it's @Faceman that desperately wants me to fulfill his scat fantasies? I feel that his privacy is important and that @Faceman's dreams of eating my poop and smearing it all over his face should remain a secret unless he decides to share that information himself.

For fuck's sake, dude.

Seriously? You can't come up with better trolls than this after ten years?

I didn't realize I affected @Faceman this much.

Contrary to the title of this thread, I believe that John does not like Faceman much at all.

You are correct, sir.

Why would this thread be worth a banning? I get that it got tweeted but really we shouldn't be tweeting threads to begin with for just this reason.

Seconded.

Yep, got to agree with dinner and Anna here. I can't remember anyone getting banned for a dumb thread title in the red room before

I'm not sure, though for what it's worth I do appreciate the sentiment behind it. It kind of sucks to have a tweet going out to gods knows how many people with an awful message like that, which is what Face intended. Once he figured out that threads were automatically tweeted, of course he was going to take advantage of it. I dislike him, that's true, but I wouldn't do this kind of thing. Face, of course, has no such compunction.

Regarding the banning, it's temporary, and like all of you, my first thought was "what a fuckhead, but I guess it doesn't violate any rules, he's just posting shit in the Red Room." Then I gave it some more thought, and considered two things:

1) he noted with interest in the helpdesk thread that these things were auto-tweeting;
2) he gleefully exploited this knowledge to use Wordforge twitter for the purpose of slandering other members.

Point 2 is the reason for the ban. The fact that there was a smidgen of ambiguity is the reason it is a temporary ban.

John is a nice guy and didn't deserve to be the target of Face's fuckwittery, I think we all agree on that, and, yes, Face deliberately went out and did it as soon as he learned the thread title would be tweeted. In the end though it didn't actually break any rules and was just mean spirited. Why not give the guy an official warning and just deactivate the tweeting of thread titles?

That would seem to solve the problem and have the punishment fit the crime.

182 people follow the Wordforge account. I just deleted the tweet, but checking analytics on the rest of the tweets that went out today, less than 30 people probably saw it.

Compared to the rest of the Internet who could find this place...are we really having this conversation?

True, not a lot of people see our tweets, or this site for that matter. But they might come up in searches. The problem as I see it is the tweets could in theory become a more visible statement abut Wordforge, but lacking the context of the actual discussion or forum hierarchy. What is said in the Red Room is open game and the content belongs to not just the site but also the members who post it. In that context, Faceman's threads are fine. Outside of this realm, they aren't necessarily such a good thing. And he knew just that and exploited it for that very reason. I'll be honest and say, I probably like him more than just bout anybody here, and I don't mean simply that I hate him less. He makes me laugh, I share his sense of humor and we come from a similar place so far as the culture and geography of where we grew up is concerned. I get Faceman. But he knew what he was doing here, and did it anyway.

We could only autotweet threads outside RR. You'd still have to watch for someone taking advantage of that, though.

You could also look at the analytics and see how many bounces you get off of Twitter.

It's difficult to make that work, and I understand that. It's impossible to troll proof or idiot proof something automatic, as there will always be someone who will find a way around it. Most people would respect that, but there's always going to be that guy, whether it's Face, or someone else. I'm not sure there's a solution, save for curating it, and by doing that, you remove the convenience of having it be automatic.

The only thing I see is Face commenting that John likes little boys. The same could be said of any Cub Scout leader. If John is reading something else into it, I think that's a projection of guilty conscience.

I only use Twitter professionally (and not very much even there) and I thought those examples are how it's been done since the account was set up.

Targeted tweeting would be awesome, though I imagine setting up something like that would be a rather complex affair. Still, I like what you're getting at with quality over quantity, and tweeting about current events might get more eyes looking this way.

We could be like ISIS and co-opt trending hashtags.

I've tried to tweet when appropriate, but I can't spend all day at it.

Since when is that a bannable offense? Why wasn't Sokar dropped kicked for the PedoRay shit, or El Chup for purposely creating a thread to call attention to Dayton's employers, or Pylades for making the photoshop that he did of me?

Different people in charge then.

I'd also wager different software as well. This software isn't the old vBulletin stuff, it's far more integrated with search engines and social sites. Creating a thread where you call someone an asshole didn't get tweeted out to a couple hundred followers, and quickly indexed by Google.

Of course, a reference to "John" is a bit different from the Dayton reference that used his full name, state of residence and occupation, all with the stated intent of bring SEO-friendly and getting him in real-life trouble at his job...