Reactionary Radical Eliminationists vs. Trans

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  1. Crosis36

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    I'm not sure why "Never mock" is presented as a negative here.
    Seems diametrically opposed to your vaunted "live and let live" ethos.
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    Remind me tomorrow morning.
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    Ok, yea, I was way too high last night to have comprehended that.

    And this is a perfect topic for a tangent thread - depending on who responds to this post or lack thereof.

    But, my thoughts on the video …

    You have three different topics (circles) here and a Venn diagram. One circle is homeschool. One circle is child abuse. One circle is power (specifically legal). At the center, bringing all three together is the worst of the worst and what this episode is about.

    I like John Oliver.

    But, I think, in this case, he’s targeting homeschool by using the epicenter of this above very dangerous Venn diagram. And if I had the software or app to create a Venn diagram, you’d see that the target is very small.

    And yes, all the children inside that very small target deserve to be seen and “rescued” if necessary.

    I would have home schooled both of my kids, not because of bullying or sex or omg black people, but because public schools teach to the stupidest child in the class.

    We have agencies set up to protect children from abuse - no, they aren’t perfect and yes, I have ideas on how to fix them.
    We have agencies set up to protect citizens from coalitions that get too powerful and those are failing.

    But, targeting homeschool won’t help fix either of those things. In fact, homeschooling might be the only thing to fix the problem.
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  4. Uncle Albert

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    Any agreement whatsoever = spouting their propaganda in Diacanu's clown world.
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  5. Uncle Albert

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    Words do not interfere with your ability to live.

    My right to speak doesn't end where your feelings begin.

    THAT is the reasonable lesson to impart to the youths.
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  6. Diacanu

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    On bigot shit, yeah.
    If you agreed with them on lawn care, no one would notice or care.
    It's just reactionary fanatics don't talk about lawn care, it's transphobia 24/7.
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  7. Uncle Albert

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    And bigotry is anything but glowing praise and unconditional support.
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    Go sell your bullshit to someone who hasn't seen it a million times before.
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  8. Diacanu

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    Unless they're written down next to pictures of a happy gay family, then they need to be burned to "protect" kids.
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  9. Diacanu

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    In your acid trips.
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  10. Crosis36

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    What on Earth are you talking about?
    Your post essentially said you see nothing objectionable about mocking people.
    Well, you may feel that way. But that doesn't make you a good person. Quite the opposite in fact.
    But it certainly does color your opinions on these things.
    What you think children should be taught is really of very little importance. You have a sum total of zero educational experience in those matters. I'd be surprised if you even knew the meaning of the term "pedagogy" without looking it up.
    While I don't necessarily think trans women should compete in sports against other women (especially combat sports), that doesn't mean I think, as you do, that children shouldn't even be told they exist. It's people like you who give anyone with a smidge of nuance in their beliefs the label of "transphobe".
    I don't want those people erased. I don't want them ignored. I think children ought to learn about the wide variety of people that exist in this world. But thanks to people like you, this issue has become an "either/or" proposition, so thank you for that.
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  11. Diacanu

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    He's all but admitted that he thinks the little endorphin rush one gets from being a sandbox bully equals moral/intellectual correctness.
    Same logic as shock DJs, hate pastors, and serial killers.
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  12. Uncle Albert

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    You may take that up with someone who wants to burn books.

    "But you've said some of the same words, and perpetual derp... :blink: "

    No. Fuck off with that stupidity. The reductive categories in that litter box you call a brain are not binding. It wasn't clever the first 15 thousand times, and much like your mental state it's not improving with age.
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  13. Uncle Albert

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    The fuck are YOU talking about? I'm not "erasing" anybody. Their existence doesn't depend on people validating them. That's entitled bullshit. And no, you don't get to force other people's kids into your cult.
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  14. Crosis36

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    You're irate response to kids even learning they exist seems to say otherwise.
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  15. Uncle Albert

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    No no. Don't try that bullshit with me. This is not merely "learning they exist." This is presenting it as an obligation that they pander and validate, when it absolutely fucking is not.
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  16. Crosis36

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    Time for some definitions, I think.
    Pander:
    to do or provide exactly what a person or group wants, especially when it is not acceptable, reasonable, or approved of, usually in order to get some personal advantage (From the Cambridge dictionary)

    What is happening in schools that qualifies as pandering?

    And the Oxford definition for validate:
    make or declare legally valid.

    So...is there something wrong with validating trans people?
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  17. Diacanu

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    I did.
    As for your bossy-pants chest thumping shtick, that shit scares no one.
    You sleep with a woman who agrees with a good 85%-90% of the shit we all say.
    You're a fraud. Your keyboard diarrhea is static.
    End of.
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  18. Uncle Albert

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    No. What's wrong is presenting it as mandatory. You are free to validate whomever you choose, just as I am free to decline.

    Sounds like you know full well what pandering is.
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  19. Uncle Albert

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    Because you say so. And your experience qualifies you as an expert.
    :lol:
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  20. Diacanu

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    You just described your whole fucking deal.
    The Randism, the posturing, all of it.
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  21. Uncle Albert

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    Your one-note caricatures aren't worth the pixel ink on your screen parchment.
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  22. Crosis36

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    Validation of the right of someone to exist IS mandatory. If you don't think that, you're literally sociopathic.

    And yes, I do know what pandering means. But you didn't seem to, until I educated you. Which, I imagine, is why you didn't actually answer my question. Because you can't.
    I'll save you time and make your post for you:
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  23. Diacanu

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    And, there we go.
    We always get here.
    Time for Alby's nappy-poo, Jenee.
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  24. Crosis36

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    Jenee is Mrs. Albert?
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  25. Diacanu

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    Oh, you HAVE missed a lot!
    The Alberts split, and Jenee is the new missus.
    Why she puts up with his nonsense leaves us all mystified.
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  26. Crosis36

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    He must be wealthy.
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    That's just an appeal to false entitlement, and there is no virtue in an act that is forced on you. Nobody owes you validation, affirmation, or any other goddamn thing.
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    In his defense as a trust fund baby he is not capable of competing with black people too. If they took his confederate trust fund and gave it to those his family had harmed he would just be another white welfare addict who works in subway. I am for reparations, but it has to come from the rich and not from the poor. In all honesty the Federal Farmers never escaped road kill for dinner country.

    Let him just give his money to Trump and Rand paul and then we take their money.
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