Star Trek...um...another prequel?

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Movie 14.
    Said to be an origin story.
    Well..First Contact was the first warp flight...Enterprise was the birth of the Federation...what's left?

    "These Are The Voyages" jumped ahead 6 years, maybe they fill that gap?
    Or...is it everything after Archer's speech?
    I dunno...
    JJ Abrams is producing though.

    https://www.darkhorizons.com/star-trek-origin-film-targets-2025-release/
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    Oh, I don't know. I want to like this idea, but if I'm being honest I'm all prequeled out. I love Discovery, Strange New Worlds, and all of that, but I'd like to see Star Trek looking forward. We don't have to go too far, but maybe just past the time Picard retires? Let's see what's out there? There has to be so much more than "let's go back to the beginning."
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  3. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I hope it's not the WW3 years.
    I don't need a documentary.
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    Seriously. We get enough of that shit in real life now.

    Edited to Add: Also, nothing against the amazing Brent Spiner, but if I see one more Soong, I'm going to have to stab a bitch.
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    > The only story set in that time period I want is a buddy cop movie about Dr. Phlox and Porthos.

    :Oooo:
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  6. Steal Your Face

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    Earth/Romulan war.I'm guessing they're going to fudge the timeline a bit. I'm also guessing the ship design is going to look more advanced than TOS or TNG.
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    How I Met Your Mother, narrated by Sarek to Spock.
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    They could do a my three dads thing where worf, riker, and data have to raise Data's next android baby.
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    This sounds shit. Do not want.

    Is it a rights thing? Are the movie rights separate from the TV rights now and they have only certain material they're allowed to produce?
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  10. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    It's more a "once you pitch an idea in Hollywood, it's indestructible until it crosses the finish line" thing.
    Someone somewhere pitched an "all girl's superhero team" idea to Amy Pascal, and it could have been done well, but it just HAD to be rushed the fuck out there, and it became "Madame Web".
    OTOH, Bladerunner 2 was in development Hell forever, and it finally got made, and bombed, but it's fucking brilliant.
    So....
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    I'm skeptical because of my lukewarm take on the previous JJ-verse movies (other than the casting) BUT here's the key:

    an origin story has to, by definition, precede Nero's arrival and thus be set in the original (in terms of our perception as an audience) continuity. Will they stick to that context or ignore it?
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    They’ll ignore it. I’m calling it right now.
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    Same. I don't necessarily need it to be Legacy moving the timeline forward but the TOS era needs a rest for a good twenty years at least.
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    The only established part of canon that hasn't really been explored is the Earth-Romulan War.

    Personally, I'd be OK with Paramount deciding that Trek takes place in the 32nd century now, and we're going to focus on that universe.
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    Oh, fuck no.
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    Seems like the kind of stupid shit that JJ Abrams would pull.
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    100% agreed.

    I think one of the reasons I don't like the DSC seasons set in that century is because, technologically, they've reached the point that Asimov referenced where it all seems too magical and, for me, it hurts the storytelling. :shrug:
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    The programmable matter and the personal transporters breaks my suspension of disbelief. Also, I don't like the sets and the way they film the shows, it looks fake. I'll take the old sets and old filming style any day. Everything is always too dark as well.
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    This take is bad and you should feel bad
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  21. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    It could happen before or after those points as well. Especially since it seems Picard established IIRC that Guinan has at least some level of ability to change her appearance so that in 2024, she looked like Hot!Guinan, even though she looked like 90sWhoopi!Guinan in the Mark Twain era and again during the TNG run., before looking like 2020sWhoopi at the end of Picard.

    I mean, we have not really seen much of canon IMO.

    It has as far as I know ever truly been established how Earth/Vulcan/Tellar/Andoria came to found the Federation. Enterprise just fast-forwarded to Archer giving a speech without showing, if you'll excuse me, the long road getting from there to here.

    Hell, I don't think that there has been a visit to Tellar (or whatever their planet is actually called). I think there's been just a couple episodes on Andoria.

    As for the Earth-Romulan War, it was a great premise for "Balance of Terror" and all, but I don't know how you make it make sense within the present timeframe established by what has come later, as well as within common sense. I don't see how it is possible to fight a war against a power without having no idea what the people look like. Surely, there would be spy missions to determine what the people looked like, salvage of ships that were destroyed, communications with neighboring powers familiar with the enemy, etc. I suppose anything is possible, but you have to do a lot of work to make it happen that no one (except maybe the Vulcans) know that Romulans and Vulcans are related.
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    My favorite star trek prequel is 2001.
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