Trump declares Biden’s pardons void

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  1. Ancalagon

    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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  2. Nova

    Nova livin on the edge of the ledge Writer

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    "Ceaser can do as he wills" ~ John Roberts basically.
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  3. Crosis36

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    Yeah, if (if) that were to somehow miraculously hold up in court, he's just opened the door to rearrest every J6 person that he openly admitted he didn't bother to individually examine.
    Of course, he's far too stupid to realize what he is doing.

    Actually, now a I'm kind of hoping it does. I wouldn't be sad to see the v presidential pardon power severely weakened.
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  4. The Original Faceman

    The Original Faceman Lasagna Artist

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    The issue comes down to whether a document can be signed in autopen? I mean, we sign official policy statements in docusign now. Can those be ignored too?
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  5. matthunter

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    Or clicking "Accept terms & conditions"?
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  6. Coloratura

    Coloratura Ginger, No!

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    The Trump guys at the market learned about the autopen, courtesy of me this weekend, and I got them to understand how it's a valid and reasonable mechanism to maintain avenues for authorizing policy.

    I have managed to turn most of them against Donald Trump. Yes, it's because they're now seeing he's targeting them as well, but it's a good first step to realizing that the system they participated in used them for fools, and that they should start questioning who that system wants them to hate, because if they're willing to manipulate them here, on their own voting rights, where else will they manipulate them?
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  7. Fisherman's Worf

    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    Hasn't Trump used autopen on documents too? Are his executive orders now null and void as well?
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  8. Coloratura

    Coloratura Ginger, No!

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    Yep, they've all used it since its inception. Hell, Trump used it to autograph his bullshit merchandise.
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  9. shootER

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  10. Order2Chaos

    Order2Chaos Ultimate... Immortal Administrator

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    This is a pretty good insurance policy against ever leaving office. Now there are hundreds or thousands of people who think their continued freedom depends on Trump remaining in power. Trump starts prosecuting Liz Cheney in December 2028, suddenly thousands of people are *highly* incentivized to overthrow the government to keep Trump in power. He’s building a private army.
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  11. Crosis36

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    I really wish I could say that's farfetched.
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  12. Rincewiend

    Rincewiend 21st Century Digital Boy

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    We are talking about Trump here so:

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  13. Coloratura

    Coloratura Ginger, No!

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    I think you are depressingly correct in the way the political wind is blowing.
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