Why are white people so upset that black people are so happy?

Of course not, but if it had happened many black people would be enraged claiming how racist America is.

A big part of racial tension, as I see it, is this double standard. Black people think anything they do along racial lines (like this) is fine, but anything White people do is racist. Of course admitting the issue is 90% of the battle, hence Mewa's posts.

BTW, I thought Bubba was the first black president, only 84% of the vote???

It's not exactly news that blacks are more racist than whites. Oppressed minorities have always felt the need to take a piss on other people whenever they could get away with it. Recent case in point, the negro vote on the gay marriage issue.

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I don't get it. 96% of black DEMs vote for the Dem candidate that is black. A little less would have voted for a white Dem candidate.

What is this racist angle you mugs are talking about?

How is Obama not African-American?

As for black support going mostly for Obama, blacks have overwhelmingly supported the Democratic candidate.

There's not a huge outcry over McCain's support being something like 90 percent white.



In part, it's a reflection of platform and campaigning. I doubt that McCain even spent much time going for votes in urban centers or black churches or what have you because he was too busy defending red states.

No, but imagine the outcry if 90% of Whites had voted for McCain. The issue is not only the percentage, but the turnout. Black turnout was through the roof this election, only because Obama was Black. Thus race solely motivated many to vote for him.

Well we know that 96% of whites are not of one party. But we do know that 96% of blacks are Dems.

So if 96% of whites woulda voted for McCain, I figure it would be some racist plot.

But 96% of blacks voting for the dem candidate that is black is not racist.

I'm an English-Irish-Scottish-German-Dutch-American.

See how dumb all that hyphenated shit sounds?

Well what would you expect?

Imagine a mexican-american running. Don't you think it would be the biggest amount of mexican-americans registering and voting.

Not the same thing as 90%+ white people voting for McCain.

That said, I've long held that race is but a crude means of sorting people into man-made classifications that don't really exist.

That Senator Obama's supporters are leaning so heavily on skin color is troubling.

And I say HA!!

Imagine a White running, don't you think the same rules should apply. I'm not saying the Black's were wrong in what they did, just that they would never accept the same behavior and rationale from White people.

What?? We been living with it for like forever.


Imagine a White running?? Did you say IMAGINE??

Isn't this the part where orange slices are exchanged?

You know what I mean, you're just trying to avoid the issue.

I'm saving them for my Obama party!!

Quite correct. Obviously alot of white people voted for Obama, or he wouldn't have gotten elected.

No. Shit.

Cool, is everybody invited?

In a way, it's worse.

If 90 percent of a group determines that it's their best interest to support a particular candidate, there could be both legitimate reasons and illegitimate reasons for that. It may not be as simple as people saying, "Hey, that guy looks just like me!"

If 90 percent of a national candidate's support comes from one group, it either shows an intentionally narrow platform or ignorance of the state of America where there are so many groups of voters to appeal to.

It's your assumption that they are "leaning so heavily on skin color." The statistics presented above that show that they voted in similar numbers for white candidates with similar platforms to Obama's shows that to be largely a false assumption.

Put another way, a white Barack Obama, let's call him "Barry O'Bannon," would have gotten a similarly high percentage of black votes. He might not have gotten as high a number of black votes because there certainly were blacks who either registered to vote or who actually voted because of the chance to vote for a black president. But the slight difference between Gore/Kerry numbers and Obama's could pretty much be there if it were O'Bannon running.

O'Bannon would have advantages over Gore/Kerry that would explain the small differential in the black vote:

-O'Bannon is charismatic, while Gore and Kerry are not.
-O'Bannon has the historic disapproval ratings of Bush on his side, while Gore and Kerry did not.
-O'Bannon could (and did) learn from the failings of the Gore and Kerry campaigns.
-O'Bannon has a better, more organized ground campaign.
-O'Bannon has a huge money advantage over McCain that Gore/Kerry didn't have over Bush.
-O'Bannon faced a weaker overall candidate in McCain than Gore and Kerry did in Bush, given the age issue, his lack of support in the base and so forth.
-O'Bannon had the economy working in his favor, while Gore/Kerry did not.

Meh, you might have something here if blacks didn't already vote 90%+ democratic.

Obama made a concerted effort for everybody's vote, white, black, Hispanic, Asian, Native American. He went all across the country, to urban centers and rural towns, to places where no Democratic candidate had had much success.

McCain, AFAIK, made no real effort to seek votes of minorities.

I don't see how it should come as a surprise or as a poor reflection on the minorities involved that they overwhelmingly voted for Obama.

Would there be any outrage if 96% of NRA members voted for McCain?

Why are black people so blinded by skin color that they can't understand honest disagreement with a black candidate?

We aren't.

Or that another candidate has all the voters of a certain color plus those of other colors.

Your logic doesn't pan out in this case.

Taint no assumption about it, did you notice this thread's title?

So can I assume we agree on my interpretation of the reality of race?

The OP is for making that stupid statement. I've seen this in some other replies across the net. For some reason, people think that whites on the right are angry about Obama losing because of his skin color, which is so assinine that it's almost funny. I voted against him because I actually read his proposals and listened to him speak. So did the majority of voters who voted against him. This kind of ignorance displayed by the OP is the same kind of ignorance that elected an empty suit into the White House because of the "historic significance".

96% of blacks aren't dems - until this election.

Upset? Who's upset? I sure as hell don't give a damn, but I also won't apologize for being thoroughly unimpressed by the mere presence of a skin tone in the white house. That alone doesn't improve anything. At least wait until he proves what kind of a leader he is before you canonize him.

I didn't vote for the black guy (Obama) because I disagreed with his policies. I didn't vote for the white guy (McCain) because I disagreed with his policies too. I voted for the OTHER white guy (Ron Paul) because he was the only candidate that made any sense.

Race had nothing to do with it.

Nope, it was clearly race voting. I've heard the "he just had a platform that spoke to them" excuse before, and while that argument may work when you have Democrat vs. Republican, ultimately it doesn't hold water and this is why: back during the primaries, none of the other Democratic candidates received even a fraction of the black vote; not Richardson, Clinton, Edwards, Biden.....almost all of the black vote went to Barack Obama. Now, if it wasn't race voting, then we really should have seen some diversification in the black vote when there were many Democratic candidates; however this year that was definitely not the case, and so all signs point to some definite monolithic voting going on then.

I was actually having a similar conversation with a friend the other day who is an Obama supporter and he acknowledged that "yeah, I'll admit it, it was race voting" but then went on to say that he could understand it this one time, black people really do need to heal, but that if it happened again, he would find it curious. I wasn't sure how I felt about that statement, I suppose on some level, I could understand his reasoning, was even somewhat sympathetic, but it was hard to get totally behind that statement. But then again, Presidential politics has never really had much racial significance for me personally.

As I've said before though, I am happy for my black friends -- I have too many of them and had lived in Harlem and Oakland (where I felt very welcome) way too long not to be happy. My friend Laurel (who is black) even called on Election Night and was overyjoyed (apparently Oakland was off the hook on Election night, impromptu march down Broadway and everything) and as her friend, I shared in her joy. I get what this means to them, and I am happy for them.

That said, what I want to know is....why does the black man gotta keep a faggot down?? What was wrong with black people that they didn't vote to legalize gay marriage in CA, FL, and other places? How can they, as have been on the other end of racism once, perpetuate that same kind of prejudice on another group of people? It just doesn't make any sense.