Why do we have troops in Japan?

The Japanese don't want us there and are protesting. Why don't we pull out and let them deal with china own their own? I was talking to a fellow today and he told me he had been stationed in japan. I told him I always wanted to see Japan, and he said that he did too but didn't get to see that much in 2 years there because the Japanese want them restricted to base. Now that is some fucked up shit.

Why don't you try living outside the US before you discuss things you're clueless about?

I have asshole. Why don't you spend a few months trapped on a military base not allowed to see outside it before you discuss things you don't understand.

You're talking about Japan.

I lived in Japan.

I worked on a US/Japanese base in Japan.

When were you in Japan again?


What were you saying about discussing things you don't understand?

Yes, even I have spent enough time in Japan to know ep's description is bullshit, much like his description of South Korea in the other thread.

Jesus fuck, EP. You know, I'd write a translation mod to convert your gutteral, alcohol fueled monologues into coherent speech, but the server host on which Wordforge sits would crash from the overload. Just stop. Stop, you uninformed, classless, heartless, tactless, foolish bigot.

I am a realist. Why do we need troops in places they are not wanted? Why do we need to pay taxes to protect other countries?

No, sir! You and reality have never met. You have met reality's arch nemesis alcohol, and he has taken you on an all expenses paid, seven day cruise to fuck off village, where you have become permanent Mayor, which on your first day in office, you formed the Liquor Cabinet, and proceeded to let it tell you what was going on in the outside world. Should you ever come out of your antifreeze and gym sock filter mash induced haze, you might see that. Until then, though, you'll be too busy taking the Night Train down to Bourbon Street to know what the fuck is going on outside the bottle.

So does everyone else. Not really something to brag about...

Why do we care whether Japan wants them?* We want them there to keep China pinned in. It's for our own purpose.

Also, I have ben to Japan, your friend's description is inaccurate regarding how Americans are received.

* Note, I do care, but the point is that you don't even know why they are there. Ideally, the population of the host country has bought in to the purpose, seeing what's good for the US is also good for them. But ultimately, the main point is that the US wants troops there for the sake of US interests.

We're there because we pummeled them into the dirt in 1945, set up occupation bases, then became friends and trade partners, and kept the bases as part of our treaty to help protect them and the rest of the world from North Korea, China and Russia.

We should do the same thing with Canada. You never know when North Korea might try to take all their maple syrup and we could heroically stand by them to prevent that.

Of course, we might have a harder time with Canada than we did with Japan because even though Canada can't stand up to us militarily, they can always use that strategy they have used so many times of sending cold air masses down our way. They seem to have an almost unlimited supply of cold air masses...

Let's pull ALL of our troops out of ALL bases outside of the U.S. and it's territories. Since we have closed many of our own here bases th troops could be put out of the military saving tax payers even further. Let the rest of the world take care of it's own problems. NO ONE would DARE mess with us what with a depleted military. Would they? And where WOULD many of the high school grads get money for college? Obama's stash?

Yeah, but we have our troops there and spending our money and yet the Japanese are not appreciative. They want to keep our troops pinned on the bases. They should at least be treated as equals. I once put in to go to japan when in the Air Force, ended up in Europe because that was on my list too. One fenced in base tends to look pretty much like another, and it would suck to be restricted to base. Perhaps the guy was just making it all up but it sounded pretty real to me. He made it sound like they had curfews so harsh that people were afraid to leave base because they got really punished bad if something happened and they did not get back in time and then he said the single folks in the barracks got restricted a lot and that sounds like the truth too.

When my son was in Korea (last year) they were on very tight restriction compared to when I was there in the early 90's. And no, he wasn't up on the DMZ - he was in Seoul, a few blocks from where my barracks were twenty years or so prior. His crazy ass stories are few and far between - mine are so awesome Ron Jeremy, Chuck Norris, and The Most Interesting Man In The World would worship the ground I walk on.

Except no one is confined to base (unless that person is on restriction). So you and your "friend" are amazingly clueless about the reality over there. Also, maybe the Japanese would be more welcoming if Americans stopped acting like drunken idiots out in town (I'm sure you can identify with that). Also, another benefit would be to stop robbing, raping, and murdering the locals.

Even with all that, there isn't that big of a puch to get us out.

They're on a tight leash because of the stupid stereotypical acting like a jackass American stuff you are so proud of.

I've been teaching myself Japanese, so that one day I can visit Japan, and not be the guy who doesn't have a damned clue about where he is, or how to communicate the basics.

I found this in the Stars and Stripes. It's about 18 months old but it seems to bear out the truth of what I was hearing. Knowing how the s&s always sugar coated things, I think the guy was being honest. So every time the Japanese accuse a GI of a crime they padlock 50'000 people? People can't drink past 10pm in their own homes?http://www.military.com/daily-news/2012/12/07/restrictions-on-troops-in-japan-carry-own-risks.html#

Wait, I thought it was your friend, now it's a Stars & Stripes article?

And notice how you keep moving the goalposts? First it was restricted to base, now it's the curfew. Yes, there is a curfew, and yes, it was because sailors tend to act like drunken idiots and do stupid shit. Again, I'm sure you can identify.

He wasn't a friend just a fellow I started talking to while waiting on a prescription at CVS. They are restricted to base if you read the article. Funny how they are only drunken sailors in Japan.
Yeah, I started googling when you said it never happened.

Mayor Enlisted Person: GODDAMMIT CAPTAIN MORGAN! YOU TOLD ME IT WAS A FRIEND! THAT'S IT, I'M PUTTING BARTLES AND JAYMES ON REALITY DUTY! <stumble> <fall> <vomit>

My apologies, it was not that article but another. I am posting from an ipad and it is a pain in the ass to copy and paste with it. It was another s&s article about the restriction to base and the fact that the curfew applies even if on liberty, leave, or whatever. I took leave when I traveled around Europe but I did not have to be back to a damn base by 11. That is bullshit and I would have never seen Europe other than right around the base had that been the case.

Johnny , you are letting your homosexuality cloud your judgement.

No one was restricted to base. There was a curfew, maybe you will figure out the difference.

And again ya drunken sot, I was there, I know exactly why these things were happening and why they kept making the restrictions tighter.

So you can paraphrase an article you may have read somewhere of you can listen to the person who was actually there.

So sad. You were once a decent person, now you're just a two bit troll who likes the cock and can't admit it to himself, so he hides behind alcohol and a macho superiority that never existed but inside his head.

I think I was talking to someone who was there. If you were a civilian then you probably were not under restrictions.

I can remember when you were a decent person John and did not stand in judgement of others, and accepted that others may have a different opinion on things than you.