If The Wrath of Khan Was Released Today

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  1. Tuckerfan

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    It might have a trailer which went something like this:



    I have to admit that as perfect as James Horner's score for the film was, this makes me wonder what Hans Zimmer would do if he were tasked with writing it.
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    The fucking geek fans would nitpick the thing to death for all its plot holes and continuity errors. :ramen:
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    The way they killed Spock was disrespectful to his character!
    He should have went out like a badass!
    He should have ripped Khan's arms off!
    That's what that character is all about!
    So says 8 year old me!
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    Which is precisely what they did at the time.
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    Has there ever been an explanation for why Khan knew Chekov?
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    Chekov was promoted from the ship's crew, so it's possible he could have been onboard at the time.
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    They did, it was called into darkness.
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    Which sucked.
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    also, he was given access to the library computer. Certainly his first order of business would be to memorize the crew.
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    I just added a girl on Facebook that I've seen around for years. Turns out we have two mutual friends, I had no idea. I'm not going to call those friendships a continuity error just because I didn't see them before. :async:
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    No, that was a remake of Space Seed. :bailey:
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    TOoK is not perfect, either as Star Trek or as a film. But we have 36 years of perspective.

    It's pretty fucking good.
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    I just watched a few clips from TWOK and the bridge has flashy lights and physical buttons and such, yet it doesn't look hokey, it still looks futuristic to me.
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    at the time we still hadn't seen a lot of the touch-screen tech that is now everywhere. But yeah, it has held up pretty well.
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    Somebody's done another modern version and slapped John Williams music on it.



    I still like the first one better, but in watching the second one, I realized that if you edited the clips just right, you could do a trailer which makes people think that Kirk dies in the movie. Wouldn't that have been interesting? You walk into the theater, thinking Kirk's gonna die, and then, *WHAM*! You hear McCoy saying, "Jim, you better get down here. Better hurry."
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    It's actually Frederick Lloyd and Samuel Hanson, using John William's original score. :async:
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    I have to say, I think that this fan-edit trailer is nearly perfect. The musical score is great, you get some nice action scenes and some mystery about what's going to happen in the film. I'd tweak it a bit in a few spots. Like, in the shot of Kirk walking down the corridor of the Enterprise, I'd have the voice-over of him saying, "There's a man out there I haven't seen in fifteen years who's trying to kill me. And you show me a son who's happy to help him." Give the implication that Kirk's facing two opponents at the same time.



    And just so everyone remembers what the original trailer was like, here it is:


    Still amazed at how well the Genesis device effects hold up nearly FORTY FUCKING YEARS LATER.
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    I’m pretty sure it wasn’t until Insurrection that they started using digital fx vs practical.
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    Nope, the whole flyby of the planet in the Genesis proposal video was CGI (though parts of it were melded with stock footage). The interior of V'Ger was also CGI from what I remember.
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    And if you skip to about the 2:47 moment of this video, you'll find out that it was the company later to be known as Pixar that did the CGI effects for the Genesis proposal video.
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    The whole intro to Generations was a shitty CGI wine bottle floating through space as it crashed into Cameron's dad's car the Enterprise B. The fucking Klingon blood in Undiscovered Country was CGI purple Nickelodeon slime.
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    The following year Voyager used CGI as well.

    I remember reading...somewhere (Communicator magazine?)...that the way to tell if a Voyager VFX shot in the early seasons was CGI or the filming miniature was if the lights on the hull behind the shuttle bay were lit. If they were, it was CGI because apparently they didn't leave enough room in the physical model to run power to them.

    They went fully CGI in 1996.
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    My memory is faulty then, but I do know in DS9, a lot of the space battles with the ships were practical.
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    Correct. Which is why, to me, even though they were great at the time, the DS9 space battles don't look very dynamic compared to later productions with computer-generated ships.
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    I mean yeah, now. Discovery does have that going for it, but look at the TOS movies (TWOK) , that shit holds up pretty good, IMO. The Enterprise D saucer crash in Generations still looks good.
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    Right. But I was talking about DS9.
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    Gotcha.
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    Also, TWOK and Generations were done on movie budgets (both dollars and time) so not really an accurate comparison.
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    Everyone knows Neelix was CGI. They couldn't get anyone to play a creepy space pedophile, even while wearing prosthetics and Hobbit feet.