"Mens Rights Activists" Impersonate Domestic Violence Organization online. Hilarity ensues.

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  1. Dinner

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    The wiki does, I pointed it out to him so please stop pretending I didn't.
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    The wiki (a) doesn't (but feel free to quote whatever part you think does, if you can),
    and (b) wouldn't be a primary source if it did.

    Come on, you're saying this is her central claim, the reason for your opinion, and that she says so over and over again. It should be amazingly easy for you to give us a specific quote where she does.
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    No, sorry, he doesn't count, because he's a well known misogynist harasser, even though no proof has been presented for this, and never will be.
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    I've got a Joe Rogan podcast I'm finishing off, and then I'm going to watch the damned videos again.
    I know she said it, I made mental note of it, and commented when it happened, but I didn't write the fucking time index down.
    I'm gonna dig in, and find the thing.
    I don't hallucinate, and I'm not a liar.
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    Broader topic but I think she brings up some of the contradictions in her own humorful way.
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    It does, look for the quote from the article by the Salt Lake tribune. I am at work and will dig up videos when I get home. Yes, it is one of the major claims she made and yet she has been completely unable to show anything about video games resulting in real life violence against women.
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    Oh, Phil Mason's well known alright.
    Here's a few atheist, free thought bloggers who are comfortably familiar with him:

    http://pettie.us/excuse-dismantle-thunderf00ts-anti-sarkeesian-video-screenshot/
    http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyng...latest-thunderf00t-video-so-you-dont-have-to/
    http://freethoughtblogs.com/carrier/archives/3364

    So let's not pretend this guy is coming from an objective point of view. He has an axe to grind.

    Here's Rational Wiki's article on him:
    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Thunderf00t#Ongoing_crusade_against_feminism

    I mean, seriously, watch this video:



    He's an anti-feminist asshole.
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    That link doesn't even lead me to a video. Clean it up, and we'll talk, unless it takes ages, in which case you're going to have to be mspecific.
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    WHAT?
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    Oh look, the editorial quoted on wiki that you're giving me instead of a Sarkeesian quote doesn't say what you're claiming it says.
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    John, his points are actually completely spot on in the video you posted. Pointing out that individual feminists have repeatedly lied and that the movement has become dominated by such people doesn't mean he hates women and instead that he is reacting to specific bad actors.
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    No, Dinner, you're not listening. The man has it out for feminists. He's been called out on it, his Twitter account was suspended for harassment, which he blamed immediately on Anita Sarkeesian, to which it turned out to be a huge number of people reporting his bullshit. So no, it's not spot on. He cherry picks, and he misrepresents. He's the Michael Moore of anti-feminism.
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    :lol:

    Weren't you just claiming she DIDN'T make that claim? Does this mean you are now admitting she did and so we can commence with the usual splitting of hairs?
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    You're being disingenuous, Dinner. You're not paying attention to fine details, and it's showing. You're in defensive mode, and that shows. It's only going to get harder from here.
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    I've paid for a post to be boosted one time. $5 for 24 hours and it would reach something like 500-800 people, it wound up reaching over 900, and expanded our likes to the business page. It posted to friends and their friends. :shrug: $5 bucks every once in awhile that helps bring attention to what we are trying to do...I'll do it.
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    You realize he is saying the The Salt Lake Tribune made that statement right, not what's her face? :unsure:
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    I've seen that video, and didn't see anything wrong with it, he made valid points.
    What the hell does a random insult belong in a blood cancer charity video?
    PZ Myers and Richard Carrier are toxic assholes, the former who has being throwing false rape accusations at people he just doesn't like, when real evidenced rape allegations ought to be taken to authorities, not the court of public opinion, and "Rationalwiki", is anything but lately, it's a bathroom stall wall.

    Seriously, if you're a fan of Peezus, I'm deeply disturbed.
    Chilled to the bone.
    This is not a nice guy.
    He's in a midst of attacking one of my friends because he alleges rapist posts on his blog, and refuses to prove this.
    Nicest guy you' l ever know, never hurt anybody, but he disagreed with Peezus on some minor point, "rape!".
    WTF?
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  19. Amaris

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    #notallmen
  20. Diacanu

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    :huh:
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    It doesn't change that thunderf00t is a staunch anti-feminist.
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    Um, okay, so I ask for sources, the sources are biased, or outright unreliable, and then you say it doesn't matter, he's an anti-feminist anyway.
    Really, WTF?
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    All right, here we go.



    From 28:26 to 30:15
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    I just find it hilarious that abviously biased sources are A-OK as long as they are biased in your direction.

    This thread is a comedy goldmine of hypocrisy.
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  25. Amaris

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    She's right. Reinforcing the idea that women are objects can lead to strong, indwelt objectification of women, and that exposure to sexualization of women leads to skewed perspectives of women.

    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/social_issues-july-dec13-sexualization_12-21/
    http://www.buffalo.edu/news/releases/2011/08/12769.html
    http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...exualized-women-are-seen-objects-studies-find
    http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-our-brains-turn-women-into-objects/

    Sorry, Dicky.

    Except I hadn't responded to anything else, aside from pointing out that thunderf00t is an anti-feminist, which he is. He believes feminism is a disease, and that it's killing gaming.
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    I'm just pointing out how some debate tactics are OK when you use them, but not when your oponents use them.

    There's a word for that John.
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    But rape?

    I took the quotes around 'feminist', to mean the people he illustrated aren't real feminists, and that that's the problem.
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    Diacanu?

    Seriously, though, I'm not endorsing any one person in those blogs, just pointing out what they say about Phil Mason/thunderf00t. Plus, Phil Mason is a stated anti-feminist. Dicky's example of PZ's actions are anecdotal.
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    (As PZ Myers)
    Nope, you LOVE them.
    If you so much as link to them, you're best buddies, and that makes you a rapist.
    :bailey:
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    I am guilty of this especially when it comes to discusions about politics but I am really starting to dislike labels because they always end up meaning different things to different people.
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