Batman: The Killing Joke

Don't get ee-ee-eeven
Get mad!

Almost drowned out by Gordon's screams, but...well, you'll see.

I normally think Grace Randolph's reviews are off and I think she's a moron, but she does a pretty good review on this one.

Ha, she says exactly what I said above.

to be fair, it isn't even continued here - just a one off thing that Bruce clearly regrets.

I've had a lotta my nerd friends post about this on FB, so I tried looking to see if this movie was online somewhere (legally) yet....and hoo boy, the reviews are bad. Like, lower than Batman v Superman bad.

I mean shit, this should've been a slam dunk for DC. How the hell did they cock it up like this was the Star Wars prequels?

Saw some previews and hated the insanely dated and bad limited animation, but it did inspire me to order the graphic novel (which I've never read).

Probably same as Lucas, Timm's so successful, he's become a Nerd God, so everyone started yes-man-ing him.

I'd definitely jump on Grace Randolph given the chance, but I'd have to tape her mouth shut.

There are....other ways to fill her mouth

.....fuck, why am I a chick and the first one to make that joke? Wordforge is slipping, yo.

that's just a result of insane expectations. It's not BAD at all, it just doesn't measure up to the legend of the original comic.

Basically they just had a source that was far too short and they made bad choices in how they chose to expand it and they don't "gel" together as they should, plus the unfortunate sex choice.

I think the consensus is the prologue would work fine in another movie but is completely out of place in TKJ. This has always been a Batman and Joker story, not a barbara gordon story.

I never read the comic and I thought it wasn't that good. My expectations were high because the people involved haven't let me down before.

Read the comic this weekend (I can't recall if I read it when it first came out).
Shocking for the shooting and nude pics, but otherwise, merely okay.

Saw this last night. On the whole, I liked it but felt it didn't live up to the comic.

The 20 minute first section that focuses on Batgirl is decent enough--though the sex with Batman bit has me --but does feel tacked on to the rest of the film.

I liked Mark Hamill's turned-down-a-notch portrayal of the Joker.

I went in expecting TAS Joker, this version threw me off, but was...interesting.

Did you catch the after credits?

I saw the

Is that what you mean? Or did I miss something?

Nope, that was the thing.

I think I'm gonna do that instead and save my money.

The graphic novel - 1000x better.

That prologue is the one thing my friends have said drags it down. TKJ from what I've seen is mostly a story about the Joker, Batman and how they are both two sides of the same coin. There didn't need to be a prologue focusing on Barbara's crush on Bruce to make her fate at the end resonate more.

I agree, but there is a pretty loud voice of batgirl fans out there who never liked barbara gordens part in this story. The filmakers were clearly playing to the "women in refrigerators" movement with that prologue.

The prologue was more of a "fuck you" to those critics than any sort of attempt to fix the issues one might have with the treatment of Batgirl in that story.

Okay then it really made no one happy and would have been better left out.

Pretty much.

I'd have preferred she at least go down fighting. Batgirl finds herself face to face with the Joker, he's holding a gun, and she just stands there and lets herself get shot? Come on. They'd never let Bruce or Dick go down like that.

But does she swallow? It's important!

Did you have a stroke or something? Seriously.

Did you always have this big of a stick up your butt?