Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. matthunter

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    Letting Rios know effectively equals admitting you killed Maddox, and she isn't prepared to go that far yet. She wants to be off the hook for all this if possible.
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    Nice episode.

    But I didn’t like how they’ve killed off Hugh so quickly. From the announcements made about the show, I assumed he would have a bigger role.

    The little girl was great. Did anyone else crave some wood-fired pizza after watching this?
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    Taking a dangerous drug that may kill you is worse. Rios is still going to find out when the EMH kicks in.

    Remember she's not a medical doctor. She might be smart but she's not going to know the proper amount of uranium hydroxide to take to cover up the tracker and not hurt her. She didn't even stop to consider her weight or any other medical factors before injecting herself. She just guessed and did it. She's lucky she's only in a coma.
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    As per the accompanying novel, Jurati IS an MD. Now, I know "non-canon", but Chabon also referred to her as a physician in his Q&A feed.

    And how do you KNOW she didn't take her weight etc into account? She's smart enough to do that math in her head if she's qualified to work out dosages. You don't see nurses (not any I'd trust, anyhoo) doing the calculations on a napkin prior to giving you a shot.
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    If you have to read a novel to find out information about characters in a tv show than the show is a failure.

    As far as I’m concerned she’s a doctor of computer science/artificial intelligence. Not a medical doctor like Doctor Crusher.
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    It's the 24th Century, I'd think the hypo-sprays at that point would be smart enough to calculate the dosage on their own, without the user having to do anything.
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    Well, a 'smart' hypospray wouldn't inject the patient with a neurotoxin guaranteed to kill them or put them in a coma.
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    Yep.
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  9. Kyle

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    My only major complaint with this show is that it really takes its time, which would be fine with a longer season. But with just 10 episodes, it had to invest a lot of it’s total runtime to just getting spun up and onto the plot.

    Not thrilled about Raffi. Her personality seems to vary wildly depending on what the other characters need each episode.

    I think a lot of complaints about the show are being made while wearing rose-colored “unnecessary because of a second eyelid” sunglasses. I burned through TNG in the year preceding this, and DS9 the year previous (sorry, no reviews there, I’m already failing everyone on Enterprise), and am, of course, way too fucking familiar with Voyager, and there is a lot that does not remotely stand up today. For every Measure of a Man, there is an Up the Long Ladder. I still love it, but I love it with its flaws. Same goes for Picard.
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    I've been reading a couple of interviews with the show-runners and their attitude to DS9 is bugging me. Kurtman said that they couldn't include a reference to the Dominion War because it would confuse people. Yet they're referencing Voyager all over the place.
    Did more people really watch Voyager than DS9? It's clearly the inferior show.
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    I have a few more casual Trek fans in my office. They liked TNG and Voyager while they found DS9 boring. It’s the more hardcore fans who accept DS9 more. It baffles me too, but I see it a lot.
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    There’s a scene in Stardust City Rag where Raffi and Rios tell each other facts about Picard and Seven that the other already know. For me, it’s a speed bump in the episode, because I already know all of that too. But it inspired a lot of questions from my son who’s watching with me and hasn’t really seen any TNG/VOY.

    So that’s the level of effort they have to invest for anything beyond fan service nods to canon. If they want to talk about the Dominion War, they have to explain to people who aren’t familiar with it what it was, that it isn’t still active, that it was costly, etc., and it really does nothing to service the plot of the show, which is Picard/Romulans/Borg/Data.

    It’s essentially the same issue they ran into when referencing the Dominion War in Insurrection and Nemesis - for anything other than brief nods to it, it wasn’t worth the investment in screen time.
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    More people I know are more passingly familiar with Voyager than DS9, which was the forgotten middle child sandwiched between TNG's legacy and Paramount promoting the shit outta Voyager to push it's joke of a network. With the very recent surge in popularity , it's easy to forget that this is not universal.
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    Agreed. I imagine it will come up if and when Worf makes an apperance, but at this point, it really serves nothing in the story.
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    It was duranium hydroxide. :async:

    Happy to see everyone, but, yes, this week's episode was a little underwhelming. It feels like a rest break in the middle of the story.

    I'm pissed they killed off Hugh.
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    If TOS can exist without referencing anything that happened a decade earlier during the first two seasons of Discovery, then Picard doesn't need to mention anything that happened over two decades earlier on DS9. :async:
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    Is it too much to hope that Hugh can be revived using the nanoprobes like Neelix was?
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    I've been thinking about this since the show started. I think of other shows that have a similar number of episodes. I hate too keep harping on this writing team, but it's very telling that they don't really have much of a story to tell. Recent examples of more compelling television; The Americans and American Horror Story. Both shows generally have around the same amount episodes and running time. Both shows hold my attention and kept me on the edge of my seat, Picard doesn't do that. I barely pay attention, it feels like a paint by numbers show. Supposedly the writers are good novelists so it tells me that Kurtzman is very much to blame.
    She's horrible, but the diversity police had to have a sassy black woman to put Picard in his place.
    I re-watch TNG and DS9 episodes on a pretty much weekly basis, they hold up pretty well for me.:shrug: As a matter of fact, DS9 handles story arcs and serialization a hell of a lot better than Picard does. VOY is clearly an inferior show, but the stuff they did with Seven is probably the heart of the show.
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    She’s making out with a hologram?
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    To quote Joe Rogan, “it’s entirety possible.”
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    I've seen one video on YouTube that theories this. Given how his ship was stricken off the record.....:chris:
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    On the one hand yes, on the other she is introduced to the show by Picard asking her questions about organic artificial life, and it seems to be her speciality.

    The new episode was so fucking great.

    Seven getting in and out of the mini collective quickly was actually not too trivial, because you could tell that at the moment she plugged in she was totally accepting it might be full on Borg time again but that was better than letting them all die.

    People have talked about the Q showing up, but I really really hope that's what the warning is about. Even retroactively explains why Q was so interested in the Enterprise and Voyager. With Data and the Doctor they were are the forefront of artificial lifeforms, and Q was amongst other things scoping out if the Federation was worthy of essentially becoming Gods.
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    I liked this episode. It finally feels like some of the mystery behind the motivations are out and they are moving the plot along... but I'm confused on a detail or two... So the "Jhat Vash" (sp?)... are they the one's fighting the Synths or is it the Tal Shiar? What does this mean for Elnor's motivations? Is he deceiving Picard? Was all that "Absolute Candor" just bullshit? There is some connective tissue here that I missed... or they just didn't put it out. The Jurati flip flopping is getting on my nerves. Will there be any consequences to her actions?

    When 7 decided to plug into the collective and become a mini Borg Queen, I was like "OH SHIT!!" That was a great moment. It almost seemed like a culmination of her charactger... a Destiny of some sorts. It's good that she had the discipline to give it up in the end.

    I've decided to like Admiral Yancey. She obviously doesn't like Picard very much and he doesn't like her either, but they both understand enough that they need to work together in this instance. I wish they could've made this Admiral Nacheyev or someone we knew from TNG.

    So I guess Narek Timberlake managed to evade the La Sirena's sensors and was able to tail them all this time to the Synth homeworld? Through a Borg conduit?

    Hmmm....
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    Good ep.

    I'm starting to agree with those of the opinion that this is about a three-parter stretched into a ten episode season, but I have enjoyed the ride.

    Okay:

    1. Seven going 'Borg Queen' was anticipated, but cool. Too bad the Romulan chick checkmated her for the most part.
    2. Was that a transporter effect as Rom chick was being swarmed by the drones? I suspect it was, and she made it out.
    3. What the hell is Rom chick's Romulan name???

    4. They sure put the Maddox thing together fast, but I still think the EMH should have stopped it to begin with.
    5. Plot is advancing!
    6. Rios's backstory now seems a little incestuous, story wise. Like Anakin building Threepio. Helluva coincidence, innit?

    Given Rios's back story, can they now trust Starfleet Command at all, or is it just Oh they have to worry about? I'm not so sure myself, but I think bypassing the stop at Deepspace 12 is probably a good idea, although they may need that fleet against the Romulans in the end.

    Maybe this doesn't end on a cliffhanger- we seem to be headed for some sort of showdown / resolution.
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    Seems like Oh is the common link here. She is some sort of Romulan "Jhat Vash" deep cover plant in Star Fleet.

    It does seem that way... I can only hope!

    Isa Briones/Soji is really cute, but ever since someone said she has a Leno-chin in this thread I can't unsee it. :lol:
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    I'm going to make a wild-ass prediction here, just shooting from the hip:

    The last scene in the final episode of the season is a Data reveal: he somehow lives, and has returned.
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    Just 'cause...
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    It's funny, all the times I saw that episode as a kid, I guess my mind just wasn't 'in the gutter' enough yet to ever make that connection. Then, years ago after the very first meme about it surfaced, I just crack the fuck up every time I see that pic or the episode itself.
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