2016 Presidential Election Thread

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  1. gturner

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    And apparently I've scared millions and millions of white women and independents away from supporting Hillary. :banana:
  2. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    FTFY.
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  3. Demiurge

    Demiurge Goodbye and Hello, as always.

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    Burger smuggled documents out in his clothes, hid them at a construction site, then took them to his office, where he destroyed several of them.

    That is not at all the same thing as 'having a personal email address.'

    Gliar, at it again.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2007/01/sandy_berger_what_did_he_take.html
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  4. gturner

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    Having them as unsecured e-mails is a thousand times worse. US intelligence has said that it's a virtual certainty that China, Russia, Iran, and/or North Korea hacked Hillary's illegal and unsecured server, so she was in effect giving top secret US intelligence to our enemies. The various agencies are still conducting a review of the damage to national security. Sandy Berger's pilfered documents didn't leave Sandy Berger.
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    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    Whether they hacked it or not is worth investigating. But calling it illegal when it absolutely is not, that's lying. Again. :garamet:
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  7. gturner

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    As are white men, white women, and independents, while blacks remain completely uninspired. But not enough to knock Hillary out of the nomination, just enough to make sure she doesn't stand a remote chance of getting elected.

    So which Republican do you want to be President?
  8. gturner

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    It's a felony. Berger copped a plea.

    The person that was lying, and continues to lie, is Hillary. Remember when she said he only used one digital device for convenience, her blackberry? Yeah, that was a lie. Remember when she said she never used her server for classified information? Yeah, that was a lie. Remember when she said she'd turned over all documents? Yeah, that was another lie.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    So you didn't see the link to RCP? Or does it not work with your lie, so you've ignored it? Berger did something completely different. You might as well say that Theodore Kazynski went to jail, then point to it as evidence against Clinton.

    Stop.

    Lying.
  10. Chardman

    Chardman An image macro is worth 1000 words. Deceased Member

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    It's.

    All.

    He.

    Knows.
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  11. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  12. gturner

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    You didn't read the story in the Washington Post, the same paper that brought down Nixon? And of course there's the two Inspector Generals who are conducting a review, along with many calls to launch a criminal inquiry.

    Of course back in March Hillary claimed "I did not email any classified material to anyone on my email, I'm certainly well aware of the classified requirements and did not send classified material." That was obviously a lie. The DNI says she sent what appears to be at least hundreds of e-mails containing classified information, including secrets from five different government agencies.
  13. gturner

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    I also know:

    18 U.S. Code § 1924 - Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents or material

    (a) Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than one year, or both.

    (b) For purposes of this section, the provision of documents and materials to the Congress shall not constitute an offense under subsection (a).

    (c) In this section, the term “classified information of the United States” means information originated, owned, or possessed by the United States Government concerning the national defense or foreign relations of the United States that has been determined pursuant to law or Executive order to require protection against unauthorized disclosure in the interests of national security.

    She still has the e-mails containing classified information, in clear violation of 18.1924, and can be sent to federal prison for it.
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I read an opinion piece in the post that was slightly less blatant in the lying. Then I fact checked. You and the op/ed author are both liars.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    ^Oh, well. Been a bit busy today...
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  17. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    She's a regular Bradley Manning!
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    tafkats scream not working because space make deaf Moderator

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    If by "the story in the Washington Post" you mean "the opinion column by a Republican operative who used to work for Bush and Rumsfeld" ...
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  19. gturner

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    No, the one by somebody who isn't so blinded that they can see the numerous obvious felonies Hillary committed. If she was anyone else she'd be serving ten to twenty years in prison, on top of millions of dollars of fines.
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  20. Tererune

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    Just a couple more days until the clowns put on their show. I am all a tingle with excitement. I hear they are putting counterweights under the stage so that Christie does not catapult one of the illustrious ten out of the debate. Huckabee is getting ready by not reading any of the bible or conversing with that hippie jesus. Ben Carson is wondering why everyone keeps saying he is a ruckus. Ted Cruz is reading up his nursery rhymes so that he can shut the whole thing down by reading garfield comics for 10 hours straight. Marco Rubio still is whiter than Jeb Bush which is really an accomplishment for him. Bobby Jindal was seen trying to sneak in from the kids table to ask him how he was able to convince people he was white. Then you have Rand Paul who is still fighting for those states rights so he can bring back the confederate flag and slavery before his dad dies. It would mean so much to ron to see the negros once again where he thinks they belong. Scot walker is going to be a little bit late. It seems he cannot find any good help now that he has busted all the unions. And finally we have the grand master of them all, the donald and the thing on his head. Trump has promised not to turn the debate into a huge pile of fuck. Really? That is what we wanted and if the donald cannot make this shit interesting why is he even in the running?

    The backups are waiting at the kids table and I hear Carly was having some fun demonstrating her prize winning technique on rick santorum. Rick perry is still trying to remember what that third thing was, while lindsey greham is spending an awful lot of time in the bathroom with that new young black intern boy. I hope everything comes out OK.

    I am truly impressed by this primary's bafoons, clowns and dufuses.
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  21. Chardman

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  22. gturner

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    Okay, explain to me why when subpoenaed by Congress she denied having any classified e-mails, which was a lie.

    Why, when she turned over that tiny percentage of e-mails, did she print them out and turn over only the paper copies? Why would anyone do that? She had them on a computer, she could have just forwarded them or handed over a memory stick, something easily searchable, but she didn't. She handed over a couple boxes of hard copies that she had her unpaid interns print out.

    Why, when she turned over a tiny percentage of her e-mails, did later subpoenas reveal that she edited the e-mails she had turned over? Editing e-mail evidence is tampering with evidence, and her case it's evidence tampering before the US Congress. Why would she do that if she's not hiding things, a great many things?

    And yet she's trying to hide behind the State Department, bemoaning the delays and saying they should expedite the release - of her e-mails which are all on a memory stick (illegally) in the possession of her lawyer (also illegal).
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  23. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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  24. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I'll give Jindal this...he's the most physically attractive of the Republican line-up.

    And considering how many WFers' primary objection to Hillary is "I wouldn't want to fuck her," this is apparently important.

    :unuts:
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  25. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    What the hell, those aren't even real pushups! He barely lowers his chest. And no, this won't help him get in to the debate. :rotfl:
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  26. Chardman

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    So she should have put them on a memory stick?

    Then, a couple of paragraphs later...

    So she shouldn't have put them on a memory stick?

    Ya couldn't keep the lie straight for even a single post, could ya? What an idiot.
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  27. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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  28. Dayton Kitchens

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    Republicans are wasting their time trying to hurt Hillary Clinton with a "scandal" like this. Sure it wasn't fair that David Petraeus got nailed for something similar but that's often the way things work.
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    Petraeus deliberately and knowingly leaked specific classified information to a woman, his mistress, writing a biography about him. That's not the worst offense in the world given how over-classified a lot of materials are, but it's surely an order of magnitude more serious than anything Clinton's been at all credibly accused of.
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  30. Bickendan

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    Yeah but, Hillary...!
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