I'm a Poor Person, AMA

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  1. Kommander

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    Troll thread spinoff! Why speculate about why poor people are poor and do things that don't make sense when we have a poor person available to ask directly?

    My qualifications:

    - I live in Detroit

    - I'm an Uber Driver

    - There's an EBT card in my wallet (it's inactive, but it's there. At the present moment I could probably have it reactivated.)

    - My current checking account balance is $17.90.

    -My credit score is 588

    - When I received a life insurance payout last year, the first thing I did was plan a casino trip.
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    Why don't you just pull yourself up by your bootstraps, stop going to Starbucks, and become a millionaire by buying investment properties with the money you aren't spending on lattes made by purple-haired bisexuals?
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    don't forget to eliminate avocado toast from your diet because your addiction to that is why you are poor.
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  4. Kommander

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    I would, but the one pair of boots I own do not appear to have straps. Guess I made a bad decision when choosing what pair of boots to buy. I'll see if the boots have something else I can lift myself by. Once I get that figured out, I'll consider my options regarding Starbucks, investment property, and purple bisexuals.
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    Please phrase any accusations in the form of a loaded question?
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    Tererune Troll princess and Magical Girl

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    Only kitten eating commies like avocado toast, so why do you want to be like them and continue your addictive consuming of that substance? Can't you see the damage it is doing to your finances, or are you as dumb as a lib?

    Is that good enough, or are you trying to be the new Dayton Kitchens?
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Speaking of boots, random aside, but Terry Pratchett had thoughts on boots:

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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    Holy shit! :soma:

    I just realized that there is a place named ‘Anc More Pork’ and I MUST GO THERE NOW!
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    Lanzman Vast, Cool and Unsympathetic Formerly Important

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    I tried to order some avocado toast once to see what all the fuss was about, but the woman at the counter moved the tip jar to the back counter and just glared at me until I left. Not sure what that was about.

    I guess. I was the new Dayton once. I think I got fired.

    Not a question, but oh holy fucking god damn all the extra money I have to spend because I can't afford quality or quantity! That shit adds up! Sure, I can get a 4-pack of toilet paper for a dollar fifty, but it works out to twice as much per roll than the mega packs that are like $30. I can't justify spending $30 on toilet paper at once, but end up paying $60 in the long run. Being poor is a constant fucking stream of shit like that.

    On the other hand, used stuff is often cheap as hell and not much worse than new stuff. Like those junk yards where you have to go and remove the parts from cars yourself? That place has saved me thousands of dollars (by which I mean, that place has allowed me to actually be able to fix my car instead of it just sitting around because I can't afford a new starter or something.)
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    Ancalagon Scalawag Administrator Formerly Important

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    First off what up in the mitten do y’all call them? In Alabama they were Pick-n-Pulls. In Washington Pull-a-Parts.

    Regardless while you can obviously save some money at the time you a) have to have access to the right tools b) have access to a fucking car which if you are trying to fix a car can be hard, especially to get someone to drive your ass to fucking Lynnwood b/c they aren’t exactly in the city c) have the time and knowledge to actually do all the work.
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    does this mean I need to come up with more loaded questions?
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    At what point will you consider gay porn for money
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    ‘Will you’ assumes future tense.
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    The signs call them "U-Pulls," but it seems like everyone just says "the junkyard" or the business name.

    But, yeah, it's not for everyone. If you can't afford to pay someone to do something for you, it's a good idea to learn how to do it yourself. I have learned to do a lot of things myself. One would think that would result in me being able to find a decent paying job, but it doesn't.
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    You don't need to, but you can if you'd like.

    Bold of you to assume I haven't already done gay porn for money.

    Anyway, I'll consider it if it's ever offered. I'll probably say no, but I'll consider it.

    As an actor anyway. If I had an opportunity to be a camera man or deliver gay porn DVDs to porn stores or something I'd do it if the pay was reasonable.
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  17. Bickendan

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    How about being the fluffer?
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    Mrs. Albert demented estrogen monster

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    Genuine question: Have you considered applying for jobs that you’re not actually qualified for and just bullshitting your way into a decent paycheck? You come across as literate and funny/personable. I don’t think it’s a stretch to think you could make considerably more than an Uber driver if you just went on a rage applying spree.
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    Is it possible to make a living as an Uber driver? I imagine cash flow is inconsistent.
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    Uber has ways to screw their drivers over. O2C touched on it in the recent California election thread.
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  21. The Original Faceman

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    Have you considered getting into profitable work like selling NFTs or buying up some $DJT stock for long term investment purposes?
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    Fisherman's Worf I am the Seaman, I am the Walrus, Qu-Qu-Qapla'!

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    I don't get it, what's this a parody of?
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    Dayton's foot, I think :unsure:
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    Considering fluffers are mostly not actually a thing, any such offer would likely be from someone who had no intention of actually paying me, and I'm not falling for that one again.

    This one's going to take some time to answer. I'll get to it after I answer the questions I can answer quickly.

    Back when Uber was all luxury cars and drivers wearing suits, it was amazing money, it's slowly shifted to "kinda shit." Up until recently, a bad day was "I only made $20/hr," there were always offers coming in that were worth taking, and usually don't have to wait long for them.

    I used to do mainly DoorDash, but people stopped tipping as much or completely, and Doordash (usually) pays a flat $2 per delivery. The food delivery apps only work if people who live within a mile or three of the restaurant tip well, and people who live further away tip amazingly. A good number of people used to, but not anymore.

    Rideshare, tipping doesn't matter as much, and even now the base pay is a lot better than food delivery. Still, for it to be worth it, I need a dollar for every mile I drive. When I first started, every offer was over a dollar per mile and there were always people ordering rides. Early last year, Uber severely reduced pay. I was getting offers that worked out to 30 cents a mile. That didn't last long, but there are a lot of offers now that are around 80 cents a mile, less for long freeway trips, and long freeway trips more often than not result in not getting a fare on the way back. Also, in Detroit anyway, if it's not rush hour, Friday night, or Saturday night, not a lot of requests come in.

    Uber, Doordash, et al, rely on uninformed drivers who think gas is the only expense that should be factored in, and overachievers who accept every offer. Taking every offer, or even most offers, results in losing money.

    There definitely needs to be more regulations on gig apps, but I'd prefer if it was more in the form of transparency and, you know, actually paying more than the $0.58/mi that it costs to drive a vehicle in itself rather than "you're employees with an hourly wage now."

    Set minimum pay per offer at 200% of the IRS standard mileage rate. There, all the gig apps are mostly fixed.

    All that stuff seems kind of iffy. I prefer to stay with safer options, like cashing checks and sending 90% of the money to the Prince of Nigeria.

    It's a spinoff, not a parody. @Volpone started a thread about poor people are poor because they're stupid, which led to people speculating about why people are poor and do stuff that doesn't make sense. I thought, "hey, I'm poor, it might be easier if people just ask me why I'm poor and do weird poor people stuff." I was hoping for more serious questions, but silly questions are fun too.
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    Random factoid: In "Death of a Salesman" one of Willy Loman's ongoing problems was that he could only afford to buy cheap appliances that were always breaking down. The guys who made more money were able to buy better things that they didn't have to replace as often. :spock:
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    If "not actually qualified for" means "I'm not actually capable of doing the job," that doesn't seem sustainable. I've known lots of people who have done this, and it never works out. If it's more of less "I'm qualified for the job practically speaking but don't quite meet the arbitrary criteria they've put forth," sure, I've got no problem saying I have five years of experience in something when I only actually have a little over three. I don't like lying in general and try to avoid it, but I'm not strictly morally opposed to it either. Lying to get a job specifically so I can collect a paycheck for as long as it takes them to figure out I'm not actually doing any work? No, I'm not comfortable doing that, seems like a waste of time, and there'll likely be consequences. Lying to get a job I'm reasonably sure I can do? I have no moral objections.

    My dad had a few different fields he worked in, but when I was a teenager, he was mostly doing machine maintenance. He applied to one job that required a degree he didn't have, so he lied about it, figuring his experience would make up for it. He got the job. Turns out part of that degree involved blueprint reading classes, and working from blueprints was most of the job. My dad... did not know how to read blueprints. He immediately started looking for another job, and found one two months later. I have no idea how he managed to stay there two months and no one noticed he wasn't doing any work. Most of the jobs I've had, I couldn't even take my standard 15-minute breaks without, at the very least, being questioned about it.

    Although, I probably could have pulled it off. I don't know how to read blueprints either, but I can somewhat make sense of them, and it's probably something I can learn. So, I'd immediately start teaching myself how to read blueprints. If I was still having trouble with the job, I'd sit down with my supervisor and say something like "I'm struggling a bit. This job is the first time I've looked at a blueprint since college. Turns out, I'm drawing a complete blank. I've been studying after work, but it's not coming back as quickly as I'd like. Are you willing to work with me for a bit while I try to relearn what I thought I already knew? I think I need another two weeks" and go from there. Well, most of the bosses I've had would have said "Well, if you can't do the job, you're fired," but a place that requires degrees might be different.

    Although, as it is, I haven't worked at a W2 job in ten years, and I'm not sure how many jobs I could find that I'm capable of doing but not qualified for. It's something to think about the next time I'm looking for a W2 job.

    I found my washer on the side of the road on garbage day. Guy told me he was throwing it out because it had a low-profile agitator, his wife didn't like it and wanted one with a regular agitator. It was still under warranty when I got it and when the guy saw me picking it up he brought the manual and warranty card out to me. It's a nice washer.

    My refrigerator I got when my neighbor paid me $30 to drive out to one of his rental properties and haul it away (I think he manages rental properties, he's not the volpone, I mean, owner.) It needed to be replaced because one of the handles was broken. Took me two minutes to fix the handle. There's a very obvious deck screw sticking through the handle where it doesn't belong, and you can't really fix things that way with rental property stuff, but my room mate owns the house where I live and he's fine with it. It's pretty basic and not all that nice, but it works.
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    What’s your educational and professional background. Feel free to post a resume.
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    Education: University dropout. Majored in Marketing, and then Psychology

    "Professional": Sandwich Artist like you guys accuse FF of being, Chemical Vapor Deposition Furnace Operator (the tool and die kind, not the microprocessor kind), light construction/home improvement, collection company compliance department, home improvement stuff again but as the BOSS this time (and no employees), collecting metal and selling it to a scrap yard (because every poor person has done that at least once), Postmates driver, DoorDash Driver, Uber Driver.

    Relevant skills: Fixing the fuck out of broken stuff, attention to detail, not being a dick all the time, ability to assemble Subway ingredients into something that's actually not that bad.

    Relevant flaws: Lifelong struggle with anxiety, depression, and executive dysfunction, not as funny as I seem to think I am, not as smart as I seem to think I am, inability to make perfect decisions.
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    I have found you really need to have some other income to supplement with uber driving. As a person who has had delivery gigs, an actual same day delivery business, has done the taxi thing, and has been an Uber driver the reality is Uber and Lyft capitalize on the contractor driving advantage that they do not purchase and maintain the vihicles and their insurance, along with having to provide the benefits and scheduling of a hourly employee. They also do not have a dispatching service to maintain or the general supervising structure of a human run company.

    You can make money based on your dedication to the service, but you will get hammered on maintenance costs for your vehicle which is not really covered, and you are going to have to skimp on insurance. That means your car insurance, and things like health insurance and unemployment insurance are either not there or prohibitively expensive.

    When I ran my own delivery service way before cell phones were a big thing, to be profitable I had to charge huge delivery fees. I did mobile delivery for NYT also and that was a lot more like UBER driving in that you are pretty much killing your car for the employer because they are not paying for the upkeep. When I did my own business I had to get commercial driver insurance which is a bit more expensive, and then worry about the mechanical downtime of the vehicles you are using.

    A Taxi service should be dealing with said issues, while Uber and lyft mainly hang those expenses on contractors while pulling from a pool of ever present and willing people to deal with the loss of a driver due to health, economic, or mechanical issues. So even if you were to make money doing it, the company does not need you and is designed to replace you in the moment more than most other jobs can do.
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