Latest Sony Hack is Some Serious Shit

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  1. gturner

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    Some blabbering from past failed candidates is useless. Obama's lack of response to the attack is deeply disappointing. He should immediately strike back at North Korea's own film industry by announcing a prohibition on showing North Korean films in US theaters.
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    McCarthyism wasn't ( and still isn't ) political? Huh.
  3. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Don't play dense. Your post was "OMG teh Libruls!"

    The Sony problem is not political.
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  4. gturner

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    The Sony problem is entirely political. They produced a noxious, subversive piece of political propaganda in which The Glorious Leader is killed, and tried to release it on the historically important third anniversary of Kim Jung Il's tragic death, which is disgusting. Everyone at Sony should all be put up against a wall and shot for their crackpot imperialist war-mongering venom, which is a slap in the face to peace and stability throughout the world. It is just another example of the moral depravity of the Japanese and American capitalist exploiters and their running-dog lackeys in the media.
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  5. evenflow

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    Part of this is political, no, scratch that, cultural, it's the final culmination of our politically correct, don't offend anyone hand wringing we do over everything now. Sony, and now FOX, are tucking tail because at the root of this is the fact that a dumb movie might offend the tender sensibilities of a dictatorship. This is just a corporate adoption of the idea that if we're just nice and apologetic to bad people they won't be so bad to us. It's Sony tweeting to North Korea, #illridewithyou
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  6. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    That's a bizarrely political spin to something that regards share holder equity and customer safety. I expect that from Castle, not so much from you.
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  7. gturner

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    Instead of a piece of comedic trash mocking North Korea's greatest living man, Sony should team with North Korean film makers to produce a movie showing how Kim Jung Un overcomes countless challenges and hurdles daily, kind of like The West Wing but with a wise, caring, competent, and firm leader at the helm.

    Coming 2016 - "Glorious Sun, Highest Incarnation of the Revolutionary Comradely Love, Descended From Heaven, Who is a Perfect Incarnation of the Appearance that a Leader Should Have."
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    Evenflow is right when he said this is more a reflection of our culture than politics. This isn't the first time Hollywood censored shit to appease terrorists, just the first to appease terrorists that aren't Muslim. :blink:
  10. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I see it as the Suits (yeah, the same Suits that ignored the hacking threat) getting together and saying "Yabbut, say they bomb a theater. Think of the lawsuits..." :shrug:
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  11. gturner

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    Exactly, and after the Colorado Joker they take such possibilities very seriously. What's more, they'd have a lot of trouble defending a go-ahead against any resulting lawsuits since several major theater chains had pulled out due to the perceived risk.
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    It's all three actually. But it seems people can only fixate on one side at a time.
  13. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    How is it "all three"?
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  14. Archangel

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    Well...I had pretty much stopped pirating any movies and went to the theater to see them.

    I think now I'll make sure it's not Paramount or Sony before I pay them a nickel.

    Pirating is still laughably easy.
  15. gul

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    I think it takes some mighty rationalization to see a political angle.
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  16. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I don't expect an answer beyond "libruls run the studios."
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    To be fair, gul, given that the one thing we know for sure about Sony based on the facts at hand is that the people making decisions there are spectacularly incompetent, it's a stretch to see "shareholder equity and customer safety" as significant concerns for them either. They might not be concerned about anything more than doing whatever's easiest and gives them the best chance of getting the press off their backs in the least amount of time.
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  18. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    That ship is well out to sea.
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  19. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    I dunno. Under the rubric that "there's no such thing as bad publicity," I certainly see Rogen and Franco coming out of this smelling like roses, and the Suits spinning press conference after press conference into "We're the victims here!"
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    Pulling the release gives a chance for things in the media to mostly settle down by the New Year or so. Of course that won't work if news continues to break, and news is likely to continue to break, but it's a stretch to think that Sony executives would think more than one stage ahead.
  21. evenflow

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    Not really when you tie it in with perpetual outrage culture and the vapid, though well meaning #illridewithyou tripe. Not that conservatives don't love the outrage card, but its a broad issue that liberals are dropping the ball on at the moment.

    Oh, and be aware that there is a mounting chorus that the hack isn't the work of North Korea, and if that comes out, its going to make the studios look even more stupid, if that's possible.

    http://marcrogers.org/2014/12/18/why-the-sony-hack-is-unlikely-to-be-the-work-of-north-korea/

    http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidence-of-north-korea-hack-is-thin/
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  22. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Imagine if it turns out to be just one big publicity stunt...
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    I wonder what sex predators are learning from Bill Cosby and Stephen Collins.
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  24. gul

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    I'll take the last part first, and say the fact that we don't know the hacking source is fairly irrelevant to the decision Sony has made. As for your concern about "outrage culture," I don't even think that exists except in the minds of the talk radiotariat. But what if it does? How does it have a baring on this, as nobody cares whether the movie makes fun of a tin pot dictator? There's absolutely no evidence that Sony is not responding to a security and stock value threat, and precious little evidence of "outrage culture" having a hand in things. Seriously, you are reaching like Plastic Man.
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    I read that when Chaplin heard that Hitler had screened Great Dictator (twice), he said he'd give anything to know what Hitler thought of it.

    Oh, and :godwin:

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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    Sadly the only people in North Korea who will see it are Kim and his buddies.
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  27. RickDeckard

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    The market for pirate DVD's is booming in North Korea, so I wouldn't bet on it.
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    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    And NK will use that as propaganda - loyal subjects will be outraged that Yankee imperialists
    dared to make fun of their merciful wonderful leader! They will show thousands of crying, weeping, shouting, etc. etc.
    people that are beside themselves with how mean, evil and dangerous America is.
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    Paladin Overjoyed Man of Liberty

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    Use stronger doses from the former and don't tell your wife about it from the latter.
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