"Rugged individualism" is a societal constuct.

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  1. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Discuss.
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  2. Steal Your Face

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    Um, no it’s not, there are real life examples of rugged individuals like Daniel Boone that had nothing to do with society. I’m sure I can think of more examples later.
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  3. Spaceturkey

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    he may have been an individual who was rugged, but he was very much part of the society around him as much as anyone would've been.

    I suspect you're thinking more about the myth than the actual man, with perhaps just a smidgen of 1950s Disneyfication.
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  4. Crosis36

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    There really isn't rugged individualism anymore. Not unless you want to illegally camp out on public grounds and eat squirrels.
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  5. matthunter

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    You're saying UA would have been against choking Neely to death if he'd just demanded squirrels?
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  6. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Colorado will let you. Tax free.
    That's where Unabomber hung out.
    I keep trying to convince UA to put his money where his mouth is, and go there, and he's just not having it.
    He wants his toys right up until the world burns.
    But he refuses to say it that way.
    Even though that's totally what it is.
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  7. Crosis36

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    I think UA just wishes he'd had the opportunity to choke someone to death. Preferably someone much smaller than him who can't fight back. Like Neely.

    And that's why rugged individualism is dead.
    People like @Uncle Albert want it until they realize it means no internet, no cars, no running water or electricity.
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  8. Lanzman

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    Don’t knock it til you try it. :dendroica:
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  9. tafkats

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    I mean ... most things that have to do with the way people interact (or don't) with other people are social constructs, pretty much by definition...
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  10. Jenee

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    First, you need to establish the parameters. Are we talking about personality types? The idea that one can exist in a social vacuum? Insisting ‘real men’ act like they’re staring in a john Wayne movie?
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    It’s not illegal to camp out on BLM land.
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  12. Jenee

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    Keep eating the popcorn. Your idea of “rugged individualism” is obviously based on lies. But, you sit there and look pretty and let the adults converse.
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  13. Jenee

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    But, what does the law say about trapping and eating small mammals and large rodents?
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  14. matthunter

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    Pinning UA to the wall and blowing him is still legal, just icky.
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  15. Jenee

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    Freak.
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    Man, think of @Diacanu roughing it in the woods for like a week

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    Endangered species aside, there’s basically no regulation on taking for personal food, at least in CA. Want to do anything else, there’s regulations, but not really for food.
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  18. matthunter

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    Shame on you for doxxing the last guy ensnared in FF's mom's pubes.
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  19. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I was a Boy Scout. :shrug:
    Not a good one; I was the Hawkeye of our troop, but I could do a couple weeks standing on my head.
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  20. matthunter

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    Hey, just because he couldn't handle a mom smothering her kid doesn't mean Hawkeye was bad!

    Or do you mean that time he went all Ronin after the Snap? Still pretty understandable.

    Hawkeye in Terrahawks had a bit of a goofy smile (especially during the launch sequence for Hawkwing) but it was a puppet show.
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  21. Jenee

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    My brother was a Boy Scout. He couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag. What does that have to do with rugged individualism.
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    Hunting on BLM land is subject to state regulations, including having a license. California even has bag limits on small game like squirrels.
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  23. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    I mean more I pissed off the Franks. Scouting is run by Franks.
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  24. matthunter

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    It's interesting that you equate surviving with the ability to fight.
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  25. Diacanu

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    If you see a bear, you can't NOT have a boxing match with it.
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    So, essentially, what you two are saying is that there isn’t anywhere in the US in which someone is not subject to legal requirements and participation by conforming to social constructs such as state, county, and township borders.

    Therefore, the idea of “rugged individualism” in the sense of surviving on one’s own is not possible in the US.

    Sounds like something someone else said on this very website.
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  27. Jenee

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    No, from the beginning, I questioned what were Diacnu’s idea of Rugged Individualism. He brought up Boy Scouts. My question, which I’m not surprised you missed, still stands.
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  28. Jenee

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    This is your idea of rugged individualism? Fighting a bear?

    You got your idea of rugged individualism from FF, didn’t you?
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  29. Bickendan

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    Hmm, this gives Charlemagne nuance :chris:
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  30. Diacanu

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    Aspergers much, Girl-Dayton?
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