Star Trek: Picard.

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  1. Steal Your Face

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    The problem right now is we don't have a Dave Feloni to make sense of it all and wash some of the stink off.
  2. Diacanu

    Diacanu Comicmike. Writer

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    Mike McMahon.
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    Following a collision with a destroyer, USS Wisconsin went by the nickname "Wisky" after having the bow from its uncompleted sister ship Kentucky grafted on to repair the damage.

    Here, 1707-F should be called Entercuse. :ramen:
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  4. Diacanu

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    Tell me more about the purple haired wage gap enthusiasts.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    I'm mixed on this episode. Retro-conning the Borg, again. I guess. When did the Changelings have time to extract the DNA from Picard, learn how it works and then program the transporters fleet wide to make that alteration on everyone's DNA?

    Killing off Shaw was a terrible decision. He ranks right up with Anson Mount's Christopher Pike as one of the best on screen captains.

    Loved Worf dissing the D over the E's weapons.

    Seeing the Enterprise D was nice, but it didn't really bring that much nostalgia to me. Also brings up so many questions. Taking the saucer section off Veridian III makes sense, but why in one piece. And the crash landing would have caused as lot of damage to the saucer section. Lower decks would have been crushed, the bridge was pretty much destroyed. So just repairing that would have taken a lot of effort and resources. Was Starfleet really cool with that? It's possible that Geordie was able to convince Starfleet to spend those resources repairing the Enterprise D due to its historical importance. And it's possible that he used drones to assist in repairs.
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    Who's saying that here? I'm mad about how they're shitting all over my beloved TNG and DS9 characters. Not only that, they're shitting on the status quo they just established last season.

    Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the reveal last week that Riker apparently gave Vadic his Starfleet override code and that's what she used to take over Titan's bridge? Riker got a whole bunch of people on the Titan murdered by doing that, and it's just glossed over.
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    It would have been nice if Worf had taken a look at the D's armaments and decided to go steal the Defiant instead. :yes:
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    I think that it took 20 years also helped. With some drones, and Starfleet's blessing, Geordi would have had no real issue using those drones, extra help, anything really, to repair the saucer, and then adding the Syracuse's secondary hull probably helped things along, too, and Geordi did mention that a lot of the ship was still shit and needed work.
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    random thoughts:
    I'm not a TNG stan so the D has no effect on me emotionally but it looked better (outside) with modern effects;
    Mixed feelings about hijacking TMP musical cues for the reminiscing scene;
    I initially liked they were using Changelings but DON'T like using them as basically disposable thugs for a bigger bad, there role here makes no sense anymore;
    Are we supposed to just forget about Floaty-Face Man?
    Worf is still killing it;
    Aaaaand just like that I no longer have interest in this "Legacy" idea
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    Yeah, just like @14thDoctor pointed out in that TLDR Tererun-inspired post of his I'm too lazy to crop from my cell phone, what the fuck even WAS the point of introducing changelings if the Borg were just the big bad villains the entire time anyway and neither of these things were connected to the other?

    Two episodes.

    Two measley episodes where TIIC could've singlehandedly redeemed this show's entire legacy and it fumbled the bag.

    Sad. :no:

    Welp, I feel safe in saying VOY is no longer the worst entry in the franchise, and it's not even close. I never want to think about the idea of Borg sperm ever again, nor about the horrific implications such a concept has for xBs with uteruses like Seven :garamet:

    If anyone still wants Matalas overseeing the whole franchise after this episode, they're probably on super crack with a dash of plutonium on top and whatever they're smoking should be banned. :borg:
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    Not even six minutes in and it feels like Troi commits a HIPPA violation. And even if it were because it was a Reporting Situation, the Borg? :sigh:
    Fonzi, prepareth thine shark jump.
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    Also, clearly Picard's balls were infected with Borg nanites, which means Beverly should have been assimilated when she got knocked up. If not because of the fluid-to-fluid transference like STIs... then because Jack was directly connected to her blood during pregnancy.
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    Starfleet: Heeeey, you know that Texas-class debacle that late Admiral Buenamigo did? What if we crank it up to 11 with Synchonized Formations?
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  14. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    It might have been interesting and terrifying if the rogue Changelings were not merely working for the Borg, but were themselves Borg that had been assimilated, their biological distinctiveness added to the Collective.

    Ah well. Add it to the various missed opportunities of this season.
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    Its too bad they never used this

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    You do know that the TNG theme was a wholesale ripoff of the TMP theme?

    That was the Borg Queen.
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    I felt that Geordi's explanation for the reclamation of the Enterprise D's saucer section was sufficient. IIRC, Veridian III in the Generations movie was uninhabited, but Veridian IV was home to a pre-warp civilization. Getting the E-D's parts away from that system is consistent with the Prime Directive.

    And don't forget, the economics of today don't apply to the 25th century. They don't work for money. Geordi probably got a few of his Enterprise D buddies together and they voluntarily restored the E-D. Presumably, the Engineering dept on the E-D consisted of quite a bit of Engineers who loved the E-D as much as the bridge crew. Why not? They used the nacelles and deflector array from a different ship. I have a few friends who buy and restore classic cars over the course of years as a hobby. I am thinking about buying a 67' Mustang to work on myself. It's the same energy, IMHO. It's been 30 years. I don't see why this is so implausible.
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    The only reason the Enterprise-D was resurrected was to distract fanboys from the massive plot holes created by episode nine of Picard.

    And your analogy doesn't hold water, even if we assume the use of 25th century technology. Using your analogy of restoring a '67 Mustang, the 21st century equivalent would be like you and a bunch of buddies restoring the aircraft carrier USS Nimitz.

    They could have reworked the whole explanation to make it a Starfleet endeavour, in that they wanted to restore the Enterprise-D to celebrate Frontier Day or some such nonsense. But saying Geordi did it in his spare time -- even over 20 years (not 30) -- is just dumb.

    And frankly, I think restoring the Enterprise-D is a fucking stupid idea period, and really serves no purpose other than to wank off the fanboys.
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    It's more and more like fan fiction, but I'll take it for what it is.
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  20. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Geordi did it as a solo project and it caught the command crew by surprise.

    Re: Prime Directive, seems to me it would be easier to vaporize the remains of the D's saucer than to haul it intact somewhere, and then for someone to haul it to the Fleet Museum for a pet restoration project by Geordi.

    Even assuming for argument's sake that since it costs no money or other resources to restore old ships, just time and desire, I find it hard to believe that Geordi (and whatever Ent-D/E/etc. buddies would have kept it a secret. Although I suppose there's precedent for Picard not particularly caring about what happened to his old ships in Daimon Bok managing to salvage and rebuild the Stargazer without Picard or anyone from Starfleet apparently knowing. Still, this is on a whole different scale, given the D's size and prominence in Federation history.

    Like WAB said, I might have bought that it was a Starfleet effort tied with Frontier Day, that Starfleet got hundreds of volunteers/staff to restore it and they literally just started and finished it like in the last week as a surprise. But even then, the notion that Picard and the rest of the crew would be kept in the dark for two decades that this restoration work was going on would be tough for me to swallow.

    But maybe that is what we are to expect that the tight crew of the D has become: close to effectively strangers to each other who don't tell each other about them having had a kid, who don't given condolences at the death of a kid (assuming that Beverly didn't break her no-contact rule for Thad's passing), etc. etc.

    You also have the Ship of Theseus issue: with so much replaced, can you truly still call it the Ent-D anymore?
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    In no particular order:

    1) that diversity just magically happens and isn't something people put effort into creating

    2)that he didn't know TNG had some truly glaring racist shit until speaking to its two black actors. In the goddamn 20s.

    There's probably a reason he was able to get hired to work on ENT with known homophobe and clueless dipshit Rick Berman that we all spent the entire run of ENT wishing he would go away. :garamet:
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  24. Raoul the Red Shirt

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    Come on, TNG had Blacks in "Code of Honor" and Irish people in "Up the Long Ladder"! That's equal opportunity offensiveness!
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    Anyway, back to the Picard series finale.

    Any bets on how many cameos there will be, and they might be? I'm thinking they're going to pull out all the stops on the nostalgia front, if only to cover up for the atrocious plotline.

    Janeway has been mentioned a few times this season, so she'll probably show up.
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    Diversity doesn't "magically" happen. Especially not the larger the business. and "Hollywood" has a large number of large businesses. They would have had to - and should have had to begin making a concerted effort with the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. But, like everything else, hindsight is 20/20. The only thing we can do now is move forward and I think most major corporations (since ... 2020 ... what was that guy's name? Floyd Something or Something Floyd) now have a department specifically dedicated to ensuring diversity and inclusion.
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    I was surprised Geordi asserted that the rebuilt E-D was the "only" ship not connected to the Fleet network. You'd think pretty much any ship at the museum would fit that criteria - opening the way for Janeway and Seven to show up in Voyager.
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    Wait. Isn't this the same ending as Prodigy? All Federation ships gathered in one place so the enemy can kill all at once and all are being controlled by an outside entity?

    I thought Prodigy was in the future, but I think someone on here corrected me and that Prodigy is set in the same time frame as Picard?
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    Prodigy is set in 2383, two years after Lower Decks and about 18 years prior to PIC.
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    So, 18 years prior to Picard .., wouldn't they have already figured out gathering everyone in one place is a bad idea?