Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

Now we're getting somewhere.

I wonder what other groups are involved and who is funding them.

"They're too well organized. Obviously, Jews are running it."

Search and a quick scan says I was the last to respond to that tangent but if you got something else please post the link and I’ll get back to you.

As to the rest I think O2C has a good enough job demolishing it.

The other thing that strikes me as different from the freedom rider and counter sit in protests in the civil rights era and the current nonsense is intent.

In the one, it is minorities going to spaces that were public for everyone else but exclusively discrminated against them, saying 'We as people have a right to be here too.'

In the other, it's people saying to Jewish students 'you aren't acceptable, you don't have the right to be in this public space.' And yes, there is a class action suit against columbia by hundreds of Jewish students saying that the protests not only made them feel unsafe, but the university told them not to come to class because they were unsafe, and then in person classes entirely. And that was before the protesters (I won't say students, because it appears that many of them were not students) overran the man campus building and barricaded it.

How anyone could confuse the two absolutely astonishes me,

So the house has made an act where criticizing Isreal is a hate crime of anti-semitism.

That is just disgusting. The US is not Isresl, and we are entitled tyo mock, criticize, and insult the Isreali government all we want. Fuck every person who0 votes for this, and the US deserves Donald Trump for the rest of his life if Joe Biden approves the Isreal is our god act.

Next thing you know the dems and repugs are going to re-institute the draft so we can make US citizens fight and die for Isreal. We all should be allowed to criticize isreal, it is called free speech.

You know who bans criticism of their genocide in countries they own? That would be the Nazis.

Seriously, do you misspell Israel on purpose or not?

Fucking Christ.

No they haven’t ‘made an act’. They have passed a bill. HOWEVER if you had watched the video I helpfully provided to try and educate you two days ago the House passing a bill doesn’t ’make an act’.

WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO.

Do confront what I have said and not your idiotic attempt to misrepresent semantics. I fighured everyone aside from the boy would know how the act becomes law and the house is the first step.l I dsid not realize you needed that put in everything while comp-laini9ng about things like me being TLDR.

Now that it is there, it is still against the first amendment for the house to have even considered this. Congresas shal make no law respecting the establishment of religion. Banning the criticism of Isreal as a genocidal religious state is respecting the establishment of religion, and the house is part of congress.

No go piss off with your attempt to derailk the point with your semantics.

It has been years of gridlock and one of the few things the house can agree on is US citizens need to be fined and jailed for criticizing Isreal while they wipe out Islamic peoples. Why is there no actual reverse of this which makes it illegal for anti-semitism against Islam? Why are they changing the definition of anti-semitism to remove Islamic people from the word?

I am fuckintg offended thgat the US government would allow a religious ethnostate to enforce their laws upon US citizens against the very first amendment to our consitution, and there is bipartisan support for this assault on our core values by Isreal.

Isreal. Fuck those assholes for invading america.

How high are you and what did it take to get you there?

Just for an education of american rights and freedoms I am going to have sdome fun.

I am going to buy a torah and an Isreali flag this weekend. I am hozing them down with piss, shit, and some lighter fluid, and I am burning them for fun.

Because I am ijn america, and I am not required to pledge any allegiance to my own country, let alone respect some foreign shithole based on a fictional book of lies. If Isreal wants to enforce their regfime and rules on me, then fuck them.

I do not know who the fuck any of the zionists think they are, but wqhat you really are is a violent group of liars who use a book of fuictionh to kill others and steal from them. Every member of the IDF is as terrible as a Nazi.

Next time the white nationalists show up[ to congress to kill the allies of the zionists, we might want to think about letting them for congress being traitors to the US and tryuing to make it an extension of Isreal and outlaw Islam.

Actually, it takes sobriety and waking up in an Isreali ethnostate because congress isa nore loyal to Isreal than the US people.

Dear Isreal supporting fascist scum in the US:

If you8 do not like Isreal being criticized Get the fuck out of the US. Go to the zionist ethnostate where you fucking belong. You have no right to fascist oppression here in the US.

If you really want a country that o7utlaws free speech and criticism of other countries, then the US is not for you, and we all could do without you trying to take our lane when you have one in Isreal where you belong. You have a whole country begging for people to go to. Do not impose your oppression on the US.

The fastest way to get the protests against Isreal to move from college campuses to the whole country is to ban US free speech for Isreal.

Okay Jar Jar. You obviously isa nore higher than normal and I am honestly curious as to what you smoked to get you there. Crank?

I just want to say: I have plenty of criticism for Israel. Their handling of this has gone from justifiable to deplorable pretty damn quick.
I meant it when I said average Gazans and Israelies are being screwed by their governments.
But talking about doing things like burning the Torah is, well, exactly why people conflate the protestors with antisemites.

It is america. The is nothing sacred about the book of lies that started the abrahamic religions. I have burned the three major holy books before. It is called protesting, and it is legal in the US. It is one of the core rights we have which has resulted in things like the end to wars, slavery, improved civil rights, women's rights to vote, and so many other things.

These are pieces of paper with ink on them, and there is nothing holy or sacred about the lies contained within them. It is like burning harry potter books, but I would not do that because all potter fans seem to do is play ballgames on a broom and cosplay.

If it bugs you that I would burn a Torah then do not wait for this weekend. I did it back in the 2000's to protest the dropping of white phosphorous on palestine against national treaties outlawing that weapon, and with the weapons being bought with my tax money as I am forced to pay for Isreal's existence.

If Isreal wants to criminalize protests against zionism and genocide then bring it. I am not Isreal's subject. I will never be. We have every right to protest Isreal in america and to criticize them.

One final thought is it is a book, not a zionist so it is a lie to say it is violent at all.

Maybe @Dr. Krieg can tell us what Yaweh needs with US funding and weapons?

Is this the maker of the ark of the covenant? Is this the punishing lord who rains hellfire down on non-believers and floods the earth?

What does the almighty need with imperfect human missiles, defense systems, and an ethnowelfare state of zionist losers?

Where is their faith? If god exists then he can save them. They believe in him and should be made to live under the rules iof their faith and rely upon their god to enforce their lease on Isreal. If they cannot do that then their god is all a lie.

I'm not convinced you passed Civics.

most people in civics drive slow as fuck and their car sounds like a giant fart, so they are easy to pass.

You were not the last to respond. I pointed out why there was a difference in post #1920 including why you weren't comparing like with like. You said you'd get back to it in #1931, I further responded and then in #1935 you ducked out, citing your sex life. LOL obviously.
You acknowledged a separate point about the right to return but also left hanging your claim that Israel was a liberal democracy after that was contested.

It's not the only time either, so maybe not get so adamant that you deserve a full and obsequious response upon demand.

The one part of my post he responded to he misrepresented. We're left agreeing that one guy said bad shit, and that the protest movement as a whole distanced themselves from it. Yes, that clearly "demolishes" my point that the protests are taking some pains to avoid any association with antisemitism.

Clearly they should pack up, go home, watch as the IDF slaughters the people in Rafah and then go vote for the guy who gave them the weapons to do so.

It's funny that when there are literal murders by the US armed forces or the IDF, you bend over backwards to absolve the institutions themselves, whereas in this case, one guy is portrayed as reflecting the character of the entire thing. But since we're parsing and dissecting the words of a student in an effort to discredit what he's involve in, perhaps we can apply the same process to the following statements from Israeli cabinet ministers (people who Netanyahu depends on to stay in power) over the last few days.

"There are no half measures. Rafah, Deir al-Balah, Nuseirat—total annihilation. You will blot out the remembrance of Amalek from under heaven."

"Why are there so many arrests? Can’t you kill some? Do you want to tell me they all surrender? What are we to do with so many arrested? It’s dangerous for the soldiers.”

I'd say those are much more serious. Do you give the tiniest shit?

Do you care that the Americans are making threats against ICC officials in an attempt to prevent arrest warrants for the Israeli leadership? That the Israelis say that they will punish the Palestinian Authority if those are issued? Remember when you pretended that the US was promoting the jurisdiction of the ICC when it suited your purposes over Ukraine? Good times.

Maybe once they arrest all the protestors, ban Tik Tok and make it illegal to criticise Israel, it will be smooth sailing from there.



Wait, isn't that the Onion?!

No, it's actually real.
Here's the definition of antisemitism they're going with.

Soros is a Jew. Not Hamas. An Holocaust survivor as well.

Quoting the Gateway Pundit again?

Don't worry, we do not go after the klan or nazis here in the US when they criticize Isreal. We go after those who support muslims and decry the killing of brown people. So The Gateway pundit is safe along with Federal Nazi.

As a writer, I find the burning of any book abhorrent. I don't see it as legitimate protest. I'd honestly feel the same way about burning Mein Kampf.

That's be about as effective as what they're doing now, with the bonus of not destroying property and encouraging antisemitic agitators.
I mean, never mind that the biggest result they're having is giving countries like Iran and UAE fuel to say they've been right about wrong out Israel from the start. Iran, for instance, is ashtray using the protests to discredit reports "from the West" that they sexually assaulted and murdered a female teenage protestor.
So, good job, protestors. You're really making a difference.

If ignorance is bliss, you must be orgasmic. btw it's spelled "Israel" not "Isreal". I'll feel free to remind you each and every time because racism.

Your post is completely spot on.

That is nice and all, but really it is all paper and it really does not destroy the literary work. If you know how things work, burning a book often leads to a reprint because someone is going to need a new copy. Not to mention I would imagine all published books today have multiple digital copies which can be used to print more, or just read it from the screen.

I have burned lots of books over time. Sometimes it is just a matter of taking out the trash. You don't really want to be giving away books that have gone moldy in some farmhouse in the middle of nowhere.

This is not ancient times where the written word and the parchment it was on were the only things available. Paper is a great way to get a fire started. As a person of the north, I have been happy to have the paper to make warmth.

Don't worry, I am merely mortal and could not possibly destroy so many copies of these works that they would be erased from the public consciousness. If you ever need to read the torah, bible, or koran take a trip to their respective places of worship and they will make one available for you. Stopping that would be a crime called arson and I would be in prison.

People really get bothered about that spelling thing. It is a bit disrespectful and insulting to misspell the name of that country. Just a question, since you recognize I can read your words and am responding to you, are you being ignorant or obtuse about the misspelling? I would say a little of both.

Just so you know, the country is not worth the respect of learning to uncross that association and spell it right. It is not racism to be bothered with zionism since Isreal does not bother restricting who can convert. Now who is being ignorant? Isreal will take any converted jew they can get and give them land in Isreal that belongs to palestinians. Isreal is an apartheid state which would be racist if they kept the bloodline pure. Really this is more of a religious war as it is not purely about the hebrew people.

That was a good try though, and if you really want to think of me as racist go right ahead. It is only a reflection on you.

OMG, you are still here? I almost missed it with your tiny little post.

Are you getting better? You are not seeing my floating shit covered dick anymore, are you? It is sometimes really disturbing how I effect the weak minded and easily butthurt.

One of the things I continue to find troubling is the LGBTQ+ support for Palestine at many of these college campuses. It goes without saying that their options in Palestine would be imprisonment or much, much worse. Israel is one of the only countries in that region that allows LGBTQ+ people to live in relative peace and autonomy.