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Which brand?

Green Smoke, but you knew that, as we already had this discussion back in early November.

Oh, see, you said a popular brand of eliquid.

Let me name a couple of popular brands of eliquid for you, you can check out their ingredients:

Halo
Johnson Creek

Go have a look. And in the future, if you want to try (and fail) to make it seem like I'm full of shit, make an effort to not be full of shit yourself in the attempt. Jackass.

Umm... I like how you are trying to imply that Green Smokes eliquid isn't really a popular brand. Well just so ya know, I just searched "eliquids top brands 2013" on Google, and most of the returned pages rated Green Smoke in their top 3!

Also, Smokin Joey over at your beloved Spinfuel points out that Green Smoke is one of the 7 top sellers in the nation, and gave it a score of 4 out of 5 on his personal rating scale,rating, as well as giving the brand a great big "Thumbs Up".

Checked the sites for both of the brands you mentioned, and neither implies that the ingredients they mention is a complete list of all their ingredients. (By all means, feel free to direct link a complete list, should you know of one.) And even if one of the two brands you listed only contained the 4 ingredients you claim they do, that hardly proves anything about the other 50 or so brands that are currently available on the market, now does it? You asserted that eliquids, as a whole, only ever contained 4 ingredients, and that's just plain not true, as the standard eliquid of one of the very top brands of esmokes has a content list of a dozen ingredients above and beyond the four you listed.

Merry Christmas you laughable piece of shit.

So... ya got nothin, eh Vapeboy?

I got plenty. What have you got? I've been letting you run with this for a good long while now, but I think I've played out enough of your choke chain. So far, you've shown that there are more chemicals in eliquid than just four. But that was never in contradiction with what I said. Try to remember back to the exact word I actually used. Hint: It wasn't 'chemicals' -- but, like 'chemicals', it starts with a 'c' and ends with an 's'.

ETA: Shit, you even quoted the word. Maybe your half-literate ass just didn't read or understand what you quoted.

Umm...I never used the word "chemicals".
I used the word "ingredients".
And the list of ingredients I provided clearly shows that the tremendously popular Green Smoke eliquid contains a dozen ingredients above and beyond the 4 compounds you insisted were the sole ingredients ever to be contained in such liquids.

The four compounds are comprised of the ingredients, chump. That's what makes them compounds, chump. Now fuck off with your chumpularity, chump. Before I pull the front of your shirt out and vomit into it, chump.

The ingredients on my list are also compounds, that are contained in Green Smoke eliquid, in addition to the compounds you listed, and claimed were the only 4 compounds EVER contained in eliquids, you brain-dead dipshit.

Didn't I just get done telling you to chump off with your chumping?

So it turns out that Google is not Tardman's friend:

Acetylpyrazine is a chemical in flavorings. http://quitsmoking.about.com/cs/nicotineinhaler/g/term_8add.htm


Beta-Ionone is a component of Rose Oil, which is already listed.

Dimethylpyrazine, Ethylpyrazine, and Trimethylpyrazine are... guess what? You got it -- flavoring agents.

Methyl butyric acid? Flavoring agent.

Trimethylcyclohex-2-butene-4-one? Flavoring agent. You startin’ to see a pattern here, dumbass?

Four compounds: Propylene Glycol, Glycerol, Nicotine, and flavorings. Yes, the flavoring compound can be comprised of several different flavoring agents, but that does not make each of those flavoring agents a different compound.

Yes, you did, and I'm ignoring it, because pretty much everything you say is contrary to reality.

Er... unless those "flavoring agents" appear somewhere in the table of elements, they are indeed, in and of themselves, and by definition, compounds. Period. That you think otherwise illustrates that whole "contrary to reality" thing I mentioned above.

The simple fact is, that it was Green Smokes who provided my source with the list of ingredients I posted, which lists 16 compounds in their eliquid. You got a problem with the number of "compounds" they claim are in their product, complain to them. I'm not responsible for any redundancy that happens to be inherent in their list.

And I'm not convinced that any redundancy has even occurred.

Compounds can, after all, serve more than one purpose, and two different forms of the same compound can be used together in a single product for two entirely different reasons. For instance, just because Beta-ionone is found in Rose Oil, it might have additionally been included in it's pure natural form, to help retard product spoilage, as it's also apparently a potent antimicrobial.

Regardless, it hardly matters, as second guessing their motives for listing their ingredients as they did is not really my concern, and doesn't really interest me. In fact, whether you happen to be correct in this instance, or not, is wholly irrelevant to me, as right or wrong, all that really matters to me is fostering your continued psychotic and impotent ranting, for the entertainment of all who frequent this forum*.

Sort of my holiday gift to the Red Room.

*And it gives me something to do to kill time when insomnia strikes.​

TYDAFOS.

YLSTPAOEF.

Shut up, garamet.

After you, Ted.

Were you still in here fuckin' yappin'? Jayzus.

So, Castle, what do you want instead of Obamacare?
The old system back, single payer, what?

The old system wasn't bad if you knew how to shop around for insurance instead of just relying on your employer to take care of you.

To me a system that insured 85% of people in the United States had to be considered at least partially successful.

The old system with greater competition between insurers.

Really. A system that worked perfectly for 85% of the people, plus removal of barriers to interstate competition so that it would work even better and for more than just that 85%? How is that more of a fantasy than Obamacare?

Then why didn't they do it?
They had 40 fucking years.

(Heath Ledger Joker)
Whatsamatta...your balls fall off?

"They" who? The same douchebaskets who thought imposing those barriers to interstate competition was a good idea to begin with? Government interference fucked consumers -- so... what? Now we have more government interference fucking with consumers, and that's supposed to be better?

Government exists to do one thing that yields two benefits: That one thing is interfering in private transactions. The two benefits are "more money" and "more control", and guess who's reaping both of those benefits.

The whole conspira-fuck between Republicans and big business.


If they weren't going to do it, who was?
Fairies?
Pixies?
Nymphs?
Kelpies?

You might want to rethink that. Health insurers? Big business. Obamacare? Forces you to give them your business. Architects of Obamacare? Your favorite 1970s beach band and mine, Obama & The Democrats.

Corporatism isn't just a Republican problem, it's a politician problem.

No shit.
I'm no big fan of Obamacare either.

I repeat the question about fairies and kelpies.

The new Republicans, if they can beat the Establishment version.

So nymphs then.