Ebola - slow to spread, hard to catch. So something like AIDS?

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  1. We Are Borg

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    I just caught the news conference with the Ebola nurse Nina Pham.

    I wouldn't mind getting a sponge bath from her. :yeehaw:
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  2. Zombie

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    Oh and the Doctor who caught Ebola in New York City?

    He passed the "enhanced" screening at the airport.

    The CDC was even bragging about it on Twitter when it happened.
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    What's the enhanced screening? They take your temperature? Not much help if you're not symptomatic yet.

    Going by my medical history I'd be the one walking around, looking and feeling totally healthy, giving it to everyone who's eyeballs I licked...totally not knowing I was sick until my liquified brains started squirting out of my ears.
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  4. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    The Ignorant don't realize that the contagious stage of anything - Ebola, flu, the common cold - is asymptomatic. Viruses survive on their ability to pass from host to host without detection.

    But The Ignorant are being spoon-fed by the media, and that's the greater contagion.
  5. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    I keep hearing that Ebola isn't contageous until the patient is symptomatic.
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  6. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    Then that would make it the exception to every other virus. :shrug:
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    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It also makes the reason that we don't need to be too concerned.
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  8. garamet

    garamet "The whole world is watching."

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    B-but it's from Africa. Where "those people" come from. And we know what "those people" are like.
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    The doctor didn't feel good, so went out bowling! Feed a cold, starve a fever...or is it feed a fever......
    fuck it let's bowl!

  10. Zenow

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    Only partially correct. Nigeria did not actually close its borders, nor its airspace. However, their main carrier, Arik air, did cancel its flights to and from Liberia and Sierra Leone:
    They opted for screening instead, like many other countries. But, unlike the US, they did this extremely well:
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    So yes.. the US could learn from this - but then, the risks in the US are not equal to those in Lagos. Containment even after a secondary infection is very likely in the US. Not so in Lagos - if those contacts had not been traced, things could have easily gone south. Remember, New York is a lot smaller, cleaner, and better organised than Lagos.
    As for the comparison of trash left in public in NY with the situation in Monrovia - don't even try. There were dead and dying ebola victims lying in the streets of Monrovia, after all.

    I am all for warnings about taking ebola seriously, even in the US, but the drama is just not realistic. Yes, ebola spread exponentially in Liberia. Yes, it looks like that in Sierra Leone now too. But it doesn't in Guinee, it didn't in Senegal and Nigeria. Infection rates depend on the local situation, not just on the virus.
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  11. oldfella1962

    oldfella1962 the only real finish line

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    I'll share a few bodily fluids with her!
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  12. gturner

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    A swath of the left now despises Nina Pham, accusing her of spitting in the face of her doctors and nurses by mentioning prayer.
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    Best post you've ever made.
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    ed629 Morally Inept Banned

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    On a local board here, there's a shit ton of idiots who make gturner look intelligent. They're calling for all travel restrictions and how anyone who shows any sickness needs to be kept isolated. Some fucktards are even keeping their kids home because other kids got sick at school from shit kids get sick from all the time.
  15. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    A "swath"? Really? An entire swath? Damn!

    What's a swath anyway?
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    I think it was a dorky watch that people bought in the 80s. :ramen:
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  17. gturner

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    A whole big bunch of people on Twitter, all atheists of course. Nurse Pham has offended them.
  18. gturner

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    With a pandemic disease, that's what you try to do if at all possible. Travel restrictions and isolating people who may be symptomatic are what the African countries are doing, and what they're now doing in New York and New Jersey. In a week or two that will probably be the US policy. "Knowing" that we know how to fight this and applying that knowledge to fighting this are two entirely different things. We know that containment and isolation work, but we're not containing and isolating, or only doing so grudgingly after the horse has left the barn.
  19. Tuckerfan

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    Twitter? AKA asshole central. The place where rape threats are considered reasoned discourse. Using that as a barometer of what people think is like asking a resident of an insane asylum about quantum mechanics. The odds of you getting a coherent answer are pretty slim.
  20. Zenow

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    New Sitrep.
    No new data from Liberia, but Sierra Leone is still worsening. The last 3 reports from Guinea, since october 14th, have seen a decrease in the number of average cases per day - something that has not happened since the end of july/beginning of August, when there was a decrease, unfortunately followed by an increase. The 'word on the ground' is that in Liberia numbers have been decreasing as well for the past couple of weeks, there are reports of treatment units which are only half filled, fewer reported cases, and, reportedly, not because people are in hiding. [Source]
    The WHO warns that it is too early to think the battle is over, though. There are reports that there are only about 410 cases left in Liberia, and a former hotspot, Lofa, has only 4 patients left in the treatment unit and intends to downgrade the treatment unit. Nobody know why, although it could have to do with people finally taking to heart the recommendations on how to deal with the disease:

    Source

    Let's keep our fingers crossed.
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    DAMN IT! Now NYC has officially boarded the Nazi train. :hail:
    They don't want people to eat strange poop! One less liberty lost - if Tomas Jefferson were alive today he'd be rolling over in his grave!

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  22. gturner

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    American Universities such as Harvard and Columbia are having to enact their own travel bans and mandatory quarantine policies, and some are even rejecting applications from any African country. Campus Reform post
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    That's fucking retarded. More college students have died from meningitis than they will from this or any other ebola outbreak. :blink:
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  24. K.

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    In other words, Navarro College isn't protecting against diseases, but rounding off its efforts to the nearest continent. :unuts:
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  25. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    I'm shocked by this evidence that higher education is more interested in marketing than science.
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  26. gturner

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    What do you bet that Ebola gets written into campus sexual conduct codes. "Step 27) You must ask if your potential partner has been to West African countries where Ebola is currently spreading, or if they have been in contact with someone who has."
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  27. Liet

    Liet Dr. of Horribleness, Ph.D.

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    Of course many parts of Europe are actually closer to the outbreak than many parts of Africa are. Hell, Brazil is closer to the outbreak than parts of Africa are.
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  28. gul

    gul Revolting Beer Drinker Administrator Formerly Important

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    It's rape if you've been to Africa and fail to disclose.
  29. Man Afraid of his Shoes

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    Did I hear the morning news blerb right? New Jersey is involunatily locking up healthcare workers returning from the Ebola zone?
  30. Tuckerfan

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    Yup. And one of the nurses being involuntarily quarantined is suing.
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