The Southern Swastika

People must sleep so well and sound knowing their army believes that.

Wearing some of those crazy outfits was certainly brave that's for sure!

Way to miss the point. Pretty much everyone at The Alamo died - thus they lost that battle - but are still considered heroes. Yes, The South lost the war, but man-for-man they quite often did kick some serious ass! If they kicked enough ass to get a military installation named after them, we sure can't take that away from their legacy or change history!

I don't consider ANYONE at the Alamo a HERO.. They died for NO reason, they were only there for FREE LAND and Slaves. The Alamo served NO military importance, If they all left and joined General Houston they'd be alive. Yeah it served as a rally cry, but they had no chance to win and should have left. Houston came back and Santa Ana left without firing a shot

Hindsight is 20/20.

You article says students have successfully demanded the mascot to be changed multiple in the past because they thought it was a shitty mascot. Currently, it is based on a 19th century pioneer yet still keeps the old name despite being completely changed and all confederate references dropped. If the students want it changed then why are you whining about it?

So this opens up an interesting question. Imagine one Southerner in the civil war, of whom we know that he, unlike perhaps many others, was a fanatic racist, and joined the effort specifically because he wanted to protect slavery as a matter of racial policy. He was well known in his own time for the horrific treatment of slaves at his estate, and for the ruthlessness with which he had men under his command rape and kill. He gets this boulevard named after him. Now, should he have more or less claim to keeping his name on the street if the military feat for which he was honoured was a memorable defeat rather than a victory?

I'm guessing they name streets/military bases/etc. after people based on their reputations and histories based on the best information available at the time. So if it was a defeat or a victory, if that individual did some epic shit/inspired his minions/displayed great warrior spirit/etc. then I guess they get things named after them. Notice how the streets/bases named after confederate heroes are all in The South? To The South those people were heroic. If 150 years after the fact historians find out it was all embellished should we change the name? A little late for that.

I think streets today should be named according to the desires of people today.

Yes, when you build a new street or road! You don't need to be renaming shit. Subdivisions are going up every minute - there's a clean slate to be creative right there.

America's Got Talent Boulevard

YES! Fucking PERFECT for a cookie-cutter vinyl siding brand new subdivision of SUV drivers and prescription pill popping soccer moms.

No it's not. Streets are re'named all the time. Do you think that every Martin Luther King Road/Street/Blvd was only laid down after 1968?

You better be like holy shit nationally known (like MLK) to have thousands of streets named after you. Thus it should be pretty damn rare IMO.

Bullshit. If the locals want to re-name a street, it gets re-named. The town I live in has streets named after pretty much every Confedereate general that ever fought. They will never be re-named because the people here wouldn't stand for it, and I don't blame them. However, if they did decide that they should re-name them they certainly could.

Maybe I'm just using my "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" logic.

No he didn't. Santa Anna's army got its ass kicked at San Jacinto a month and a half after the Alamo fell and he was taken prisoner.

I do agree that the Alamo battle was a waste. The only thing positive that it accomplished was that it made Santa Anna overconfident, causing him to split his forces which evened the odds in the decisive battle.

Speaking of shirts and skins, can she be skins?

A street in the ghey district of San Diego got renamed after Harvey Milk (first openly gay mayor in America in the 60s/70s who was later assasinated) about two years.

Why is the American flag still being used? It flew longer over "the slave states" than the Confederate flag. Perhaps use the UN one and the new anthem could be "We Are The World". Oh, and scrap the current constitution and totally adopt the UN's constitution. Don't forget to READ that one first....

For the record.

Mayor George Moscone and Supervisor Harvey Milk were shot and killed by former Supervisor Dan White.
White dropped a handgun thru an open window of city hall.
He served four years in prison and then killed himself.

Supervisor Dianne Feinstein became Mayor after Moscone's death.

Because the American flag represents a lot of OTHER things, too, just as the country itself does. The American flag flew over this country when we abolished slavery, extended the franchise to women, defeated the Nazis and fascists in World War II, abolished de jure segregation, and landed on the moon.

The CSA existed for four years and for one purpose only, that of preserving the right to own people.

The CSA never had a cause that wasn't evil. The United States has had many.

I figure the UN flag has flown over more examples of oppression and atrocity than the American flag ever did.

One thing about the UN. They can display their flag, but they don't have the ability to defend it.

It's cute how you talk about this organisation in the third person, as if the US weren't a member and one of the most dominant players deciding its policies.

Yeah the US needs to get away from the UN sooner rather than later. We might have a hand in implementing policies, but not executing policies. The Srebenica massacre should have been a strong signal that unless closely supervised the UN just can't get the job done.

Actually, this isn't as bad as it seems. The place being discussed to move them to is the place where the two of them actually WANTED to be in the first place.

A couple of other thoughts on "going too far"

item - the business about not licensing the General Lee merchandise is just stupid. That show was basically a live action cartoon and was as non-racist as you could probably have ever conceived in the 70's

Item - Removal of the Jeff Davis statue in the capitol of Kentucky? What the fuck is a Jeff Davis statue doing in a state that DIDN'T secede?

Kardasian Cove?
Duck Drive?
WWE Smackdown Way?

Ah, the perpetual wrong question. Here's why:

Basically, the Dixicrats fucked it up for everyone else. Say what you want about the Civil War, or slavery - THAT, in the 20th century, is the legacy of racism and oppression that stains the CBF
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/...88.html?cps=gravity_2425_-7832799487348966713

He went to school in Lexington. Students used to party at JDI, the Jefferson Davis Inn, where he lived when he was a student at Transylvania University.

He was also cross dressing before cross dressing was cool.