Why Do Americans Vote on Tuesdays?

Based on what?

Human nature and its track record of corrupting good intentions to keep power?

I have doubts of either side looking out for the American people, and I grant that the GOP doesn't know when to shut its collective trap. But I don't see Dems as being that much less slimy.

Show me widespread evidence of voter fraud that has impacted an election and I'll entertain Voter ID laws. Until then, the GOP can fuck off. All I ask is that people vote once and in the correct spot. Immigration can worry about their citizenship status.

It's only voter fraud if it affects Democrats.

So Lanz, you going to show us that evidence of widespread voter fraud that Prussian Mafia asked for?

I dunno. Did it affect Democrats?

If it didn't happen, it affected nobody.

I'll take that apology anytime


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It's hard to detect voter fraud when you're not IDing people. It's not like you can say it was the man in the blue shirt if you're not checking ID. If the give a false name, how do you track them down?


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We are all so terribly sorry that you're such an ignorant child. Better?

A comprehensive investigation of voter impersonation finds 31 credible incidents out of one billion ballots cast

It's also hard to spot the Great Pumpkin if you don't stay up all night on Halloween.

Where was it sent from?

Sorry, I call bullshit on this like I always have.

How exactly do you prove voter fraud in the first place when there's no ID requirement to check? The number is WAY higher than 31.

That doesn't make it impactful, and I tend to think voter fraud has no impact on the vast majority of elections.

At this point I'd hazard a guess that the amount of voter fraud is significantly less then the amount of people who would be disenfranchised if an ID requirement was put into place today.

That doesn't mean you can't set a deadline and have the expectation that at some reasonable future date that it would be more.

If you are told you have 8 years to get an ID and don't bother, that's on you. Each party would have more than enough incentive to get its electorate out to get their IDs. Maybe we'd spend some of those billions of dollars of political contributions on voter registration that way.

Apparently you don't remember all the stink when The Patriot Act was first enacted, when it came out that the act required libraries and bookstores to not only confirm purchaser's/borrower's identities, but to track their purchases and/or withdrawls, so that US Intelligence agencies could (so it was feared) keep tabs on individuals with subversive reading habits, and the like. Rest assured that increased ID scrutiny in libraries is, at least in part, a direct result of The Patriot Act.

Here's the American Library Association page about the Patriot Act's impact on libraries, w/ ample links to sites outlining the impact in greater details. LINK And here's a page about safeguards for reader privacy that were eliminated by the USA Patriot Act, by the "Campaign for Reader Privacy" LINK

A database run by Kansas found 120,000 cases of people with the same name and birth date voting in different states in the same election in the 28 states sharing data, but only 14 cases were even referred to prosecutors, and I doubt any were even indicted. In North Carolina in 2012 756 voters match the same name, birth date, and Social Security number as someone who voted in another state, while 35,570 NC voters matched on name and birth date with someone voting elsewhere.

BTW, if you haven't seen Elbert Guillory's anti-Mary Landrieu ad here, it has political pundits agog at its simplicity and power. He has raised the bar.

Voting should be available for a week. We should make it as easy as possible for people to vote. We now have the tools that can allow us to do that.

Wait.. Volpone... you react with anger to an insult to Federal Farmer. Mmm.. Is Federal Farmer your dual?

Quit playing with yourself.

It's best not to look for logic or meaning in a Volpone post.

Holy fuck, can you two NOT crib off of Captain Anime, please? Get some new schlick.

Or, a room. Either or.

Yesterday he was insulting the kid, too. Seems to be his idea of a courtship ritual.

Maybe it's just a standard response to Shartman because he deserves nothing else. Anyway, still waiting on that apology.

Keep calling him names. That's sure to get you what you want.

Preferably in a fire.​

Can someone explain again why having ID makes it harder for me to vote in two places at once? Can't I just buy a fake ID? It seems to me that the argument should be for better IDs, not more IDs.