Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

So when are American and Canadian universities going to go Kent State on these fucking pro-terrorist students?

The videos and photos are unreal. Shades of January 6.

Kent State is too much, but absolutely time to put this folks in jail, give them a criminal record, and expel the ones who are Columbia students.

I was obviously exaggerating for effect, but I agree 100% with this.

RickDickhard disagrees!

Property damage is a nonviolent crime, as is trespassing and whatever these kids are going to be charged with. Jail time would be needlessly retributive and would make hundreds of martyrs.

Mostly agree.

No need for jail. Just kick them out of the school. And fine them for property damage.
Apparently they're now barricading one of the buildings at Columbia? Jesus Christ. Yeah. That'll stop the war, sure thing.

Do you think that student protests against the Vietnam War contributed to ending that?

Big difference there. The United States was the primary aggressor. What, exactly, do they expect us to do in a conflict we are NOT involved with?
And don't give me any bullshit about giving weapons to Israel. I haven't seen any college campuses shut down over our sales of weapons to the Saudis for them to wipe out the Yemenis. These nincompoops have the international awareness of a TikTok video.

This really is comedy hour.

Nevertheless you do appear to agree that student protests can work to influence foreign policy. So what's the difference?

That's liberals for you - against every war except the current one.

Spoiled fucking brats on a $70k per year tuition acting like imbecilic children

I have no sympathy for these clowns and welcome and encourage harsh consequences for them

The other day I read someone saying that if these kids are that upset with their schools and can't get them to change, they should vote with their wallets and transfer elsewhere. Deny them that $70k or whatever amount they're paying.

My only complaint is the same authorities that respond to neonazi marches with "freeze peach" eagerly sending in cops to bust heads and make arrests.

If you can't address my whole post, you've basically conceded every point you chose to edit out.
I'm not liberal, by the way. Nor am I necessarily anti-war.

They really don't. Because neonazis march and go home. Pro-palestinian protesters that do that are fine. It's the ones that believe they have a right to take over campuses, are told they need to leave, told again, told they will be arrested, given several extra days after their absolute last warning, and then take over a campus building by force are the ones who get busted heads and spend a few nights in jail.

If the neonazis were stupid enough to do the same thing they'd be in jail too.

Yeah, lefties have a stupid, stupid habit of turning their protests into encampments. It's always counterproductive.

Sorry, that's not how it works. The claim that the US is not a participant in the current conflict is a self-own, requiring no refutation.

No, Rick, there's no US 1st Infantry Division in Khan Yunis about to assault Rafah. The only US troops in Gaza are the ones who are building a $300 million pier so food can get to the Palestinians.

And if sending arms is the same thing as direct involvement in combat, then Israel should be nuking Iran any day now. But everyone knows they aren't the same thing.

Is the Great Satan bothering you? Is the Great Satan in the room with you now?

MTG has been playing the "every public protest is exactly like Jan 6th" card for a while now.

https://newrepublic.com/post/176099...ne-calls-jewish-anti-war-protest-insurrection

Because it's still proving somehow impossible for the Israelis to facilitate a ten-mile road journey. Yeah, forgot that we're still supposed to take that seriously.

No it isn't the same. But they are straining every financial, diplomatic, legal and PR sinew to allow them to continue, as well as militarily threatening everyone else who might lift a finger to stop the IDF. It would be impossible without the US. These things are policy choices, they can be changed and protests to change them are necessary.

Hamas literally killed the leadership of a tribe that Israel was having distribute food so Hamas couldn't steal it for itself.

And Fatah just made a statement that it's Hamas stopping the flow of food to the people of Palestine.

But I'm sure your socialist silo didn't cover that. Damn those Palestinians who say that Hamas is evil.

You just said it was. But then you constantly prevaricate from one statement to the next when called out on your obvious bullshit.

And this is just more hyperbole. The US has been shooting down missiles fired at Israel. They haven't sent a carrier battle group to wreck Iran, who definitely is sending arms to attack the Israelis.

But of course you aren't going to mention the fact that Iran has been using proxies by sending arms to kill Israelis in attacks intended to cause mass civilian casualties.

That would require some level of self-reflection in your fanaticism.

"Self-own"? What are you, 12?

You don't make the rules, I'm afraid.
Let's say I accept your point. That the USA is involved with this conflict.
So, that makes you (at best) a hypocrite or (at worst) antisemitic. Unless you think there is a material difference between the Saudi/Yemen conflict and the Israel/Hamas conflict.
Cause boy, you sure are quiet about the former. I can at least blame ignorance for those college kids. You, I think, at least consider yourself a bit more knowledgeable, it would seem.
So which is it? Hypocrite or antisemite?

You are giving him way too much credit.

The German Ambassador to the Palestinian Authority, Oliver Owcza, faced a violent attack during his visit to the West Bank on Tuesday.

Palestinian students at Birzeit University near Ramallah targeted the diplomat, hurling stones, damaging his vehicle, and forcing him to flee the scene.

The incident unfolded as Owcza arrived at the Palestine Museum, situated within the university campus.

Videos circulating online captured the chaotic scene, showing students shouting and jeering at the diplomat, demanding his departure. As the situation escalated, the ambassador's car was targeted, with students throwing objects and damaging the vehicle.

Germany, traditionally supportive of Israel, has also advocated for the rights of Palestinians and the need for a resolution to the conflict that includes the establishment of a Palestinian state.

Berlin has yet to release an official statement regarding the incident.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/midd...ked-by-palestinians-during-visit-to-west-bank

Truly a masterclass in how to make friends and influence people

I have not been quiet about that. A fact that you can easily discover from my posting history.

That notwithstanding, of course there are many material differences between the two conflicts.

You've certainly been quiet when I brought it up.

One being the involvement of Jews, of course.

You know, you keep marking my posts as dumb, but I've yet to see you make a single salient rebuttal to any of them.
If you can't keep up, that's okay, but the consistent ad hominems really reflect more poorly on you.

That's not what ad hominem is.
And you're repeatedly calling me an anti-semite, so you'll get the respect that that deserves.

I'm not calling you an anti-semite. I'm asking you to choose.
You could just be a hypocrite.

As for "ad hominem":
"This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person"
Texas State University Department of Philosophy.

So, yes, I do apparently know the definition better than you.

No, apparently not, even when you look it up and post it for all to see.

Insisting that I must either be a hypocrite or an anti-semite is ad hominem. My giving you dumb reps in response is not.