Israel is Coming Apart at the Seams, It Seems

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  1. Crosis36

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    By the way: Yemen death toll: 377,000
    Gaza death toll: 34,000.

    My point? Where is the outrage for a war that has killed over ten times as many people?
    Where are the campus protests? Where is the massive media coverage? Where is the criticism of the US and Buden in particular for "allowing" this to happen?
    Could it have something to do with the skin color of the people on the winning side? Maybe.
    I'm having a hard time thinking of a better explanation.
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    Well, you are a hypocrite. We've established that much. The question is really whether it's racially motivated or not.
    And see, it's not an ad hominem because I've attacked the very foundation of your argument. You demonstrably pick and choose what to be outraged over. And you haven't really said anything to indicate I'm wrong.
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    We've had the discussion about relative casualty numbers earlier in the thread. If you weren't engaging in such obvious bad faith, I might be inclined to repeat the points made to you. But unfortunately I'm going to have to treat you as I do Demiurge's industrial-scale dishonesty. Feel free to declare lack of response as victory again if it makes you feel better.
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  5. Crosis36

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    Yeah, not gonna dig thru 100 pages looking for your nuggets.
    Bad faith implies I'm trying to reach a common ground with you. Since that's not possible, I'm just enjoying putting on display the abject hypocrisy of people with your position.
    Thera nothing, nothing, you could tell me about relative casualty numbers that would change anything. The very concept implies a measurement of the worth of individual lives.
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  6. Demiurge

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    In the meantime, Hamas has launched mortar attacks against the pier that the US is constructing to deliver military aid, and another terrorist group in Gaza that operates under Hamas' aegis has threatened the UK government that if their forces help unload aid on the pier they will be legitimate targets.

    https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2024/0...k-u-s-pier-under-construction-off-gaza-coast/
    https://www.longwarjournal.org/arch...y-begin-to-deliver-aid-from-offshore-pier.php
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    Shutting off food and water is certainly a very on-the-nose way to deal with a protest about Israel.

    Maybe they can have snipers shoot them in the kneecaps next.
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    Jesus Christ, you would think college students could scrounge up enough beer money to at least order some Domino's.
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    "We're going to illegally occupy this building and prevent you from using it. Now can you please give us some food and water?"

    Id think it was an onion headline.
    Clearly, these kids are just looking for attention.
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    Wow. I actual listened to it, and apparently the university hasn't even done anything. She just wants to throw out that they shouldn't.
    Never mind all of those kids could at any time they'd like to.
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    Man whatever happened to college being cramming for exams, getting shittered with your mates and hopefully getting laid from time to time
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    The 80s ended.
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    I was 90s, it fucking rocked and we just laughed at those dirty hippies
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    So, they had real estate in your head? I bet they didn’t even know you existed.
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    100% this. And not just RickDickhard, but the thousands of idiot American and Canadian college kids. As has been pointed out many times already in this thread, there are (quite sadly) a number of "genocides" currently going on the world. Last I checked, I didn't see students smashing windows over the Rohingya ethnic cleansing.

    And when's the last time a bunch of college kids occupied a public space over Darfur?

    Is it possible that something else is at play here? :thinking:
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    Do you suppose it may be possible that college kids actually are protesting all those things but you just don’t hear about because …. Something else may be at play?
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    No Jews, no news.
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    There are a couple of key differences between the Israel/Hamas conflict and the situation in Darfur, particularly when protests by U.S. college students are concerned.

    First, the U.S. government does not provide any military aid to the Sudanese government, and in fact only recently removed Sudan from the State Sponsors of Terrorism list. Second, the universities that the students attend likely do not hold investments in any companies with ties to the Sudanese government.

    I'm no fan of the American far-left's willingness to ignore anything Israel's neighbors do to it while condemning Israel the second it fights back, but there are logical reasons for focusing more on the governments that their own government has alliances with than on the governments that their own government already opposes.
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    So where are the student protests calling on the U.S. government to divest itself of all its economic ties with Saudi Arabia?

    Seems to me that Saudi Arabia has been doing a better job of killing civilians in Yemen than Israel has in Gaza.

    Or is it possible that something else is at play here?
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  24. Demiurge

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    The Find Out portion happened tonight - Police used a ladder truck to go in through a 2nd floor window, akin to the siege engines of old. The protesters had barricaded the ground floor extensively, and evidently vandalized it as well.

    Columbia uyniversity invited the police in, they were on campus about an hour before the breached the building, giving the protesters yet another 'last chance' but this one was actually the last chance.

    Dozens of people are in custody. The police will be staying on campus at the President of the university's request until after May 17th, when commencement will take place.
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    What? No, we just laughed at them when we happened to walk by them doing their thing
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    Now that is a fair question.
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    Irrelevant sidenote but I get a kick out of all the kids wearing red keffiyehs.

    Oh, you are pro monarchy and not pro republic (black keffiyeh) which the PLO now PA wants to be?

    They explicitly changed the color from red to black to disassociate themselves from the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan.

    Who exactly are you supporting here?

    Oh. You just bought it off of Amazon because it ‘looked Arab’ and have zero understanding or historical knowledge of the situation?

    Cool, cool. I should totally listen to you.
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    The centrist blob has spoken, I see.

    Dare we ask what the reaction would be if there were a violent crackdown like this on a protest movement in Iran or Russia?

    It's not going to stop, you know. People don't like genocide. They will continue to express that in disruptive ways and there is a good chance that Biden is literally going to throw away his second term over this.
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    "People" are pretty selective about what to be outraged about. Social media plays a big part in influencing the masses and Western nations have been doing an absolutely piss-poor job of regulating the misinformation and propaganda that thrives in this environment.

    For sure. The fact that he's taken such a weak-kneed approach to these idiots just feeds into the GOP narrative.
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