When Will We See the First Trailers for Star Trek: Beyond?

You don't listen to music you grew up on anymore?

That song is from 1994. Prepubescent boys couldn't handle that yet. They'd be too unimaginative.

Not too much, and certainly not the more juvenile stuff. Most of the stuff I listened to when I was a kid is various degrees of embarrassing now; any residual fondness I feel about it is nostalgia.

It makes little sense that Kirk would grow up listening to 300 year old hip hop. I certainly hope The Beastie Boys aren't some kind of high water mark in popular music.

But I could forgive that anachronism. What I have difficulty with is this: we've seen Kirk grow and mature as a character--particularly in Into Darkness--and if the new film is recalling his frat boy beginnings, that's a big step backward.

I'm sorry you had such bad taste in music as a child.

At least I finally figured out who was buying Spice Girls and Hanson CDs.

I used to put ketchup on steaks, too. Some things you just outgrow.

One thing I didn't, though. I was in high school when The Beastie Boys License to Ill came out. I thought it was garbage then, I think it's garbage now.

There might've been a song or two by the Spice Girls I liked enough to still listen to, but Hanson? Pshaw!

Spock's jacket says USS Franklin.



More screengrabs here.

Embrace the suck.

It sure seems like the Enterprise gets destroyed again. I suppose it's possible that it's some other ship getting destroyed (the Franklin?) and Kirk and co. are on a mission to find out what happened.

I hope it's something like that. The Enterprise herself is a character in the movies, and it would be nice if she could last a few films. Especially since the crew was just on the verge of a five year mission at the end of Into Darkness.

But I'm afraid not. It looks like it really is the Enterprise going down.

My guess? The Enterprise was sent to find out what happened to the Franklin. Enterprise goes down on strange planet. Crew finds the Franklin and uses it to resolve the plot somehow.

My thoughts as well.

Yep, it's the Enterprise that goes down. One of the screencaps very clearly shows "701" as the final digits of the number on the hull of the downed saucer section.

Don't jump to conclusions. That could've been the Ranger (NCC-2701), the Baker (NCC-4701), the Alcori (NCC-5701) or the Wasp (NCC-9701).

I'm not watching a Star Trek movie where the Enterprise gets destroyed yet again. Since The Search For Spock the writers, producers, directors have shown profound disrespect for the ship as a character and instead treat it as a simple special effects piece to be played for dramatic "moments" to pull in another couple million in ticket sales.

I count two Star Trek movies that show the Enterprise getting destroyed. Two.

The Search For Spock-destroyed.

The Final Frontier- treated as a systematically malfunctioning joke

Generations-destroyed

Nemesis- virtually destroyed with the entire front end of the saucer torn off.

Into Darkness-virtually destroyed

No matter how you cut it, the Enterprise taking a horrendous beating is a recurring theme.

Don't forget First Contact where they wanted to have the Defiant destroyed outright by the Borg but the DS9 producers raised holy hell about it.

The Enterprise also gets the snot beaten out of it in The Undiscovered Country.

9 torpedo hits and their shields eventually collapsed but the ship was fully functional in all ways at the end of the movie.

Right. But it still took a pounding, like all Enterprises tend to do.

As I recall, Enterprise gets a torpedo *through* the saucer section in TUC. Now I know this is just fiction, but if something similar happened to a modern ship, it would be in repairs for a loooong time.

Didn't several U.S. ships at the Battle of Samar take direct hits from Japanese battleship guns where the armor piercing shells literally went in one side of the U.S. ships and out the other side without detonating? The lightweight American ships (destroyers, destroyer escorts, and small carriers) not having heavy enough armor to set off the armor piercing shells.

The Battle off Samar. And, yes, I believe that did happen

Wow, they are really pumping out these Fast and Furious movies.

I could swear we just had one!
And now they are in space!

But where's Vin Diesel?

I loved the trailer. It feels very TOS, and I can't wait until July!

Hmm. I didn't get a TOS feeling at all from that trailer. It felt more Guardians of the Galaxy to me.

TOS was more slow paced and thoughtful. This is Star Trek on amphetamines.

I'll definitely go see it and I might even enjoy it, but I'm not expecting these movies to be anything like old Trek. Old Trek is dead.

I seriously doubt that music will feature prominently. Trailers often have this sort of vibe without giving much idea of the movie. We'll see, but I think it shows potential.

On the Blueray they'll have an extra one-hour fifteen minute scene where they debate the ramifications of several possible courses of action.

Kirk: "Options gentlemen."
Spock: "I see seventeen options. In order, they are: One, Captain Kirk takes the motorcycle up the north trail to T-junction. At a constant speed of 18 meters per second this will require 4.8 liters of fuel, so we will need to synthesize a further 1.5 liters."

...

Spock: "Option nine, Captain Kirk rides Ulfman's near-horse around the south swamp trail."
Kirk: "But the horse is still lame. Bones, can you fix him?"
McCoy: "Damnit Jim. I'm a doctor, not a veterinarian!"

...

Spock: "Option thirteen, we reassemble a transporter out of components from the downed shuttle, the alien attack vessel, and a replicator scavenged from the Enterprise, and then tune its frequency to match the shield emitters around the ...."
Scotty: "Ayve not got a round to square adapter and we canna buy one this late."

I'm not sure I agree TOS was slow paced and thoughtful. Are you perhaps thinking of TNG, where the Captain frequently had meetings with his bridge crew regarding any event, or none at all?

Granted, Kirk had a number of staff meetings, but when shit hit the fan, space karate chops, flying ass kicks, and phasers were fired. Then, after all of that was done, came the resolution involving talk and diplomacy. When danger arose, Kirk broke shit, and then once the threat was diminished, or near the end of their resistance, he would say "I'll give you a chance to stop before I break more shit." If they stopped, Kirk would then go on to explain where they went wrong and what they could do to remedy their mistakes. If they didn't stop, he'd end that shit.

TOS was very much action oriented. It had bright colors, direct messages, and a metric ton of fight sequences.

Well, what do you expect? The second movie had Khan and the third movie had the Enterprise blow up.

Once the movie is out on video someone will have to add the old TOS fistfight music to it and post the clips on Youtube.

Spock: "The USS Franklin, Captain. A precursor design to our Enterprise."

(the fanboi in me wants this )

This trailer doesn't say anything beyond action, action, action. IV will be the Star Wars crossover I guess. One more for a generation with the attention span for a Tweet and nothing more.

I don't mind. Much. Maybe the TV show will have some depth.